cric_fan Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 abey kya wtf? tere hi log hai, phateechar log They are Indian. Phateechaara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHONI_FANN Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Well what do ya expect when children are systematically exposed to such acts of violence right from a tender age, any other outcome possible apart from them getting desensitized to violence and bloodshed? There is a reason why in civilized cultures slaughterhouses are away from places of residence, carried out by professional butchers while shielding children from the blood orgy. Instead here we have a 7th century barbaric Arabian culture in 21st century where on a specific day millions of animals are slaughtered in public spaces by amateurs very clumsily whilst people of all ages are exposed to the macabre sight of fountains of blood with the animals holding on to their dear lives in vain. Is there any equivalent in other cultures/religions? When Muslim kids see this sight repeated over and over again with rivers of blood accompanying, is it fair to expect it to not have an adverse effect on their psyche? Here's the result. Muslims treat animals worse than other communities. Not just limited to animals similar brutality comes to the forefront even in their dealings with the human society. Crime is natural but violent crime is disproportionately represented by Muslims. Others rape .....Muslims rape and then proceed to disembowel, damage private parts and hack to bits. Eye gouging, dismembering, beheading etc is almost second nature to them in riots and acts of crime. There is a reason police are generally hesitant to enter Muslim localities. In Kolkata Muslim areas are no-go not just because of the density of criminals but their brutality....IPS Vinod Kumar Mehta was the last police officer in Calcutta to enter a Muslim locality (Garden Reach) to enforce law and order, after what happened to him (it was the festival of Holi that day) and his bodyguard Bengal police dropped its balls collectively. Same locality a Hindu girl is being held captive by a Muslim gunda for the past 8 months and Bengal police is yet to enter, they have even disobeyed HC order because they are afraid LINK, Court Order HERE The thread may be about gangrape of a pregnant goat but we won't do justice to the subject at hand without going to the intricacies of the problem which will answer other pressing questions as well. IMO the root is the propensity of Muslims to indulge in violence because of their religious teachings which gives a major thrust on blood lust and cruelty. In fact I will go a step further and say that violence/cruelty is an integral part of most of the old religions but Islam is the only one that hasn't reformed. That too is one of the reasons why Muslims conquered and ruled large parts of the subcontinent in spite of being a minuscule minority. Just like our forefathers we dharmic people are yet to come to terms with the extent of violence the desert cultists are capable of carrying out. That is also a reason why Hindus are so subservient and need to outnumber Muslims by 5:1 just to hold their ground. I wonder what stops police from launching an all out attack and steamroll these bastards. Police has arms, ammunitions, legal backing, manpower so there is no reason to be scared. There must be some kind of political intervention. Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 I wonder what stops police from launching an all out attack and steamroll these bastards. Police has arms, ammunitions, legal backing, manpower so there is no reason to be scared. There must be some kind of political intervention. Human Rights stops... UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said: I wonder what stops police from launching an all out attack and steamroll these bastards. Police has arms, ammunitions, legal backing, manpower so there is no reason to be scared. There must be some kind of political intervention. That's what I thought. Pata nahi Kolkata Police etni phattu kyu hai, Mumbai ( which was dominated by D-gang) main toh Maine kabhi nahi Suna Police Walo ki Muslims se phat rahi Ho, ulta 92-93 main Mumbai Police ganged up with Shiv Sena and taught a great lesson to Bhais and their followers. UrmiSinhaRay, DHONI_FANN and Switchblade 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) As I had suspected, Indian society is on the path of moral decline. The increase in population is only adding more and more bad apples To alleviate the situation, tough measures have to be taken .... Environment, animals, etc., should not suffer because of the garbage which the sub-con has become Edited July 29, 2018 by zen riya, Hydra, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 They would have done the same to a child or a woman if they had found one available. Disgusting low lives. Switchblade, UrmiSinhaRay, riya and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DHONI_FANN said: I wonder what stops police from launching an all out attack and steamroll these bastards. Police has arms, ammunitions, legal backing, manpower so there is no reason to be scared. There must be some kind of political intervention. 1 hour ago, rageaddict said: That's what I thought. Pata nahi Kolkata Police etni phattu kyu hai, Mumbai ( which was dominated by D-gang) main toh Maine kabhi nahi Suna Police Walo ki Muslims se phat rahi Ho, ulta 92-93 main Mumbai Police ganged up with Shiv Sena and taught a great lesson to Bhais and their followers. Bengal police is phattu and we know the nature of present day Bengal society, bhai Netaji Bose ka zamaana kabka jaa chuka hai. You saw that link I posted about them not entering Garden Reach to rescue the Hindu girl? It's been over 5 months since the HC issued order but police ki bas ki baat nahi hai. In logon mein aur Mumbai police mein zameen aasman ka fark hai. I can assure you that when peacefuls decide to launch the offensive in Kolkata the whole city will burn like we have never seen before. Think of Direct Action Day and multiply that by 100.....but still Bengalis will try to lecture other states about how to solve problems, how to keep fascists out and save democracy. If 1946-47 and 1971 couldn't teach these folks anything, what hope do we have? Bakhtiyar Khilji took over Bengal by scaring away the the Sena dynasty with just around 20 horsemen. Agree that Bengali Hindus have shown valor later on during British rule but right now it seems like another Sena dynasty there, ripe for the picking. Edited July 29, 2018 by Gollum Stradlater, DHONI_FANN, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post coffee_rules Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 Gives a whole new perspective to the OP UrmiSinhaRay, Jatboy, Stradlater and 8 others 2 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 the most shocking thing is adding religious favor to these incidents and giving the communal color. Hindu men, Muslim men instead of just men. Which religion they belonged to does not matter. what they did does. Alam_dar, Cricket_Fan, Switchblade and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: the most shocking thing is adding religious favor to these incidents and giving the communal color. Hindu men, Muslim men instead of just men. Which religion they belonged to does not matter. what they did does. I kind of agree. However, I would want actual statistics to be available on actual crime and demographics of criminals: age groups, economic status, education level, religion & caste etc over a period of time. Some numbers are anyways thrown around to suggest community X or Y is a victim. Lets get to the facts of what leads to higher crime, is it one particular factor or a combination of them, or maybe they're just random numbers. These numbers can then be used for concrete steps to reduce crime. I wonder to what level the current data gathering is done and its impartiality. @ topic, I feel bad for the animal but I don't think its a major crime in the eyes of the law. e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/07/07/animal-cruelty-india_n_10856308.html According to The Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act, 1960, in India, you can get away with being cruel to most animals by paying a fine of anything between Rs 10 and Rs 50. That won't even buy you a decent cup of coffee in most cities in this country. If you repeat the offence within three years, the penalty may go up to anything between Rs 25 and Rs 100. You could also be thrown in jail for three months. But that's about it. The chances of anyone ending up in an Indian prison for kicking around a stray dog or cat are slim. Only the bovine species enjoy special privileges here. Cows now have a dedicated 24-hour helpline in Haryana to prevent theft and mishandling. Over the last few days, the nation has been following with bated breath the story of a dog, now christened 'Badhra', who was thrown off the roof of a multi-storey building in Chennai by two medical students. It was not enough for these men to have simply committed such a crime; they also decided to record it on camera and broadcast it on social media. The debased bravado of these men was condemned almost unanimously. The torturers have been suspended by their college for their regressive actions. But what has the law been able to offer to the poor animal in terms of redress? Just the aforementioned fines of Rs 10 and Rs 50 to the offenders as punishment for the crime committed, followed by almost instant release on bail. Having walked away scot-free with such minor consequences, these men can indulge in their sick fantasies once again with impunity, as long as they can pay the higher fine of Rs 100 and face the idea of doing time for a couple of months. If they do not make the mistake of flashing their atrocities to the world a second time, it is more likely they won't even have to worry about such matters. Remember, these men are more part of the norm than the exception in this country. While incidents of casual cruelty abound in India every day, only the more spectacular ones reach the public eye and inspire outrage. Last month The News Minute reported an incident of 50 strays being sedated and burnt alive near Chennai. The reason behind this mass murder was the ostensible threat these dogs posed to the local goats and sheep. In 2012, 100 dogs were found dead in Maduravoyal after being made to consume cyanide pills. Dogs in Sendurpuram, Vinayaganagar and Amman Nagar were killed and brought to D.R.R Nagar in Chennai, where they were buried near a pond, allegedly under the local panchayat's instructions. Earlier this year, 50 community dogs were killed near the well-known Velankanni church in Tamil Nadu. Some of these animals were clubbed to death, while the others were strangled with a nylon rope. It was important for the roads to be cleared of these dogs for an annual festival, a prime tourist attraction, which was about to commence. Earlier this year, an RTI application revealed that about 2,800 stray dogs were euthanized in Chennai over four years. While Rule 9 of the Animal Birth Control Rules (Dogs), 2001, allows for the mercy killing of mortally ill or wounded dogs under the supervision of a veterinarian, the culling in Chennai did not explain, with any degree of transparency, how these animals were selected in this drive. A good many of those killed, under this reckless 'catch and kill' policy, could probably have survived had they been given proper medical care and attention. This list of horror stories stretches on and it will get lengthier each day – until the law makers decide to mete out the harshest penalty for offenders of animal cruelty. While it is heartening to see collective outrage over such unspeakable incidents on social media – and it is important to call out even the slightest of transgressions and publicly shame the perpetrators – real change can only come with more stringent legal consequences. The law needs to instill the fear of the most severe punishment in those who contemplate such acts of cruelty in order to act as an effective deterrent. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, rkt.india said: the most shocking thing is adding religious favor to these incidents and giving the communal color. Hindu men, Muslim men instead of just men. Which religion they belonged to does not matter. what they did does. Agree, but it is done mostly in retaliation to the media highlighting the religion if the crime is committed by a Hindu (or any non-muslim). Like this... Edited July 31, 2018 by coffee_rules Stradlater, beetle, Gollum and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 3:08 AM, beetle said: They would have done the same to a child or a woman if they had found one available. Disgusting low lives. It is proven that people who hurt animals have no empathy and they later graduate to becoming serial killers. Switchblade, zen, Stradlater and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:43 PM, kira said: abey kya wtf? tere hi log hai, phateechar log Haryana is not in Pakistan. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kira Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 12 hours ago, Mariyam said: Haryana is not in Pakistan. I am just trolling cric_fan you need not get so triggered over this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 First it were all Muslims responsible for it. Then all Liberals also became somehow responsible for this crime. Then came the trend #don'tTalkToMuslims . I am lost. Please take a break from all this hatred. === My personal feelings as a human being. * Levels of frustration. Some stop at watching pornos. Some stop at masturbation. Some stop at going to red light area. These seems to be the legal limits of frustration. From here onwards start the limits, which are in grey zone. Some start having sex with animals (without any torture). Some then may go for sex with same gender (although if they are not naturally so). From here onwards start the limits, which are prohibited and criminal, like raping the children, or raping women without their consent etc. Torturing animals also lie somewhere here. === The most shocking incident for me was then when I read in the Pakistani newspapers that frustration has gone to that level where dead bodies of the young girls was taken out of their graves and then raped. Therefore, people started to guard the dead bodies of women/girls for first couple of nights, so that no one rape them. === What is the solution? Perhaps making marriages easy would help. At moment it is very difficult to marry in our societies. For sure this is one of the biggest cause of frustration People should also be afraid of the Police and must know that Police will trace them out using the modern sciences. This fear will also stop the crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 7:59 AM, Hydra said: It is proven that people who hurt animals have no empathy and they later graduate to becoming serial killers. Your nations is one of biggest exporter of live sheeps and cattle. https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/live-export-shipboard-cruelty/ I guess Australia will soon become home of serial killers velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Singh bling said: Your nations is one of biggest exporter of live sheeps and cattle. https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/live-export-shipboard-cruelty/ I guess Australia will soon become home of serial killers You know nothing about Australia's laws, typical Indian, keep beating your chest and saying India is great maybe one day it will come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Hydra said: You know nothing about Australia's laws, typical Indian, keep beating your chest and saying India is great maybe one day it will come true. Not saying india is best but just laughing at hypocrisy of west who consume more than 100 kg per capita meat , invent new methods to factory farm animals with cruelity , but start beating chest when see some cruelity on animals in third world nations Stradlater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Singh bling said: Not saying india is best but just laughing at hypocrisy of west who consume more than 100 kg per capita meat , invent new methods to factory farm animals with cruelity , but start beating chest when see some cruelity on animals in third world nations Cruelty to animals in Australia is dealt with in a very severe way, the fines aren't 50 rupees it is jail time and penalties ranging from $1000 to $20000 or even more, and jail time of 12 months to more. Edited August 3, 2018 by Hydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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