Trichromatic Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 England have closed the gap with 3-0 win in SL. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) This bowling group does not have a single series defining performance overseas. Edited December 1, 2018 by rkt.india UrmiSinhaRay and SK_IH 1 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, GautiMaan said: Just like the batting is useless without Kohli bowling is useless without Bumrah 544 runs against inernational bowling attack by a large bunch of nobody's. Iconoclast and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 4 hours ago, GautiMaan said: Just like the batting is useless without Kohli bowling is useless without Bumrah Let's not big up bumrah so soon now. Aus has been a graveyard for foreign bowlers, even the great steyn averages almost 29. We will have to see how well bumrah adjusts his length and plans there. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The gist of what op writes is correct. Starting 5 bowlers as a total package for India are the best. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 6 hours ago, bhakum20 said: Let's not big up bumrah so soon now. Aus has been a graveyard for foreign bowlers, even the great steyn averages almost 29. We will have to see how well bumrah adjusts his length and plans there. partly because of his injury breakdown in his last test in 2016, and the fact that he played some tests early in career before hitting peak form. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 India has ghanta bowling line up. A CA XI scored 500+ runs against them. Auss reaming starts Dec 5. And now no Shaw in the team, only Kohli. The rest are passengers. Can't wait. C'mon Aussie c'mon! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 10:02 AM, Clarke said: Yep, u can look at the doubts among the fans. But we certainly hope this becomes the undisputed truth by some measure. Undisputed will be difficult. They are easily among top 3 without any shadow of doubt and rating them as best is opinion. However reaction of posters was as if they are among bottom 3. Waiting for people to complain how this batting line up is weak and this performance doesn't mean anything. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Pacers complement each other India's seam trio have complimented each other well. Bumrah has been the quickest; Ishant has swung the ball the most; Shami has been a balance of both speed and movement. #AUSvIND pic.twitter.com/WcJuORERpf— The Cricket Prof. (@CricProf) December 7, 2018 Ashwin is bowling beautifully, but he's standing on the shoulders of his teammates. Shami has drawn a false shot with 21% of his deliveries this Test, the most of any Indian bowler - indeed, only Starc has drawn more on either side. No wickets, but pressure built. #AUSvIND— The Cricket Prof. (@CricProf) December 7, 2018 When Ashwin last toured Australia, he bowled too quickly, too short, and he struggled. 46% of his deliveries were above 88kph, and just 22% were pitched full. Today, he's bowling fuller (33% pitching full) and slower (only 25% above 88kph) - and it's working. #AUSvIND— The Cricket Prof. (@CricProf) December 7, 2018 Indian pacers are good at different metrics This @CricViz graphic shows where India's seamers rank in terms of different skills. In 2018, nobody swings the ball more than Ishant Sharma, and only one man seams it more. #AUSvIND pic.twitter.com/axfIdCf1W1— The Cricket Prof. (@CricProf) December 7, 2018 Along with that we have 3 spinners for Asia conditions - Ashwin, Jadeja and Kuldeep who are almost impossible to beat. flamy, Lannister, Clarke and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Excellent bowling in the 1st test match by India so far till the 64th over. Bowling well as a group ... bowling in good areas ball after ball ... pacers maintaining high pace in all spells ... everyone maintaing pressure. Not easy for touring teams in Australia. Indian pacers have the 2nd best bowling average as a group this year in test matches. Don't go by practice match performances ... otherwise, Dinesh Karthick would have been the greatest batsman around. UrmiSinhaRay, nevada and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 8 hours ago, express bowling said: Excellent bowling in the 1st test match by India so far till the 64th over. Bowling well as a group ... bowling in good areas ball after ball ... pacers maintaining high pace in all spells ... everyone maintaing pressure. Not easy for touring teams in Australia. Indian pacers have the 2nd best bowling average as a group this year in test matches. Don't go by practice match performances ... otherwise, Dinesh Karthick would have been the greatest batsman around. Some people who were laughing at my post few months back rated Pakistani bowling as better than current Indian bowling. I mean the team which can't get out kiwis out on day 4 pitch at their adopted home is better unit that duo of Ashwin-Jadeja. Inferiority complex is high here. AuxiliA, flamy, Khota and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 7:16 PM, Austin 3:!6 said: Indian bowlers are better than Anderson, Broad, Stokes or Amir, Abbas, Hasan Ali, Shadab??? I wish they were but in reality they aren't. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Except Anderson they are better than others. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Biggest hurdle for Indian pacers is team management who aren't willing to give chances to youngsters. We have 3 regular pacers in Bumrah, Ishant, Shami with Bhuvi as 4th and Umesh as 5th. Ishant has cemented his place as 3rd support bowler. We need a replacement for Shami whose fitness is always in question. Kohli and co need to look for 2-3 pacers from domestic cricket who can replace him. 1 tall pacer and a left armer would form better bench strength. MCcricket 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 5:45 PM, Trichromatic said: What's wrong in it? Which team has better bowling line up? Sorry No. I wish Indian attack . Starc ,Cummins ,hazel ,Lyon is the best. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: Sorry No. I wish Indian attack . Starc ,Cummins ,hazel ,Lyon is the best. On basis of avg pace? If you consider that only, yes they are. If you consider performance then they aren't. They did nothing in SA and UAE. India averages 26 in last 3 years, Aus averages 30, same as NZ. If they are better, then how do they average 4 points higher. In which country they have done better? In SA India - 23.5 Aus - 34.9 In UAE Aus - 40.4, yes an attack of Ashwin and Jadeja will be this worse, averaging 50 against minnows! In SL Aus - 28.75, Ind - 25.4 In Eng Aus - 28, Ind - 29.8 Seems like giving too much importance to pace has clouded the judgement. Anything which is more pacy is better is mantra being followed. Even with that Indian pacers aren't much far away from aussies. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 /\ Atually a lot of resident experts had doubts on Indian bowlers. There have been threads on the same. Although early days, the Indian bowlers have proved what I already believed in UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: /\ Atually a lot of resident experts had doubts on Indian bowlers. There have been threads on the same. Although early days, the Indian bowlers have proved what I already believed in Bumrah has made a huge difference tbh. Without bumrah we would have been same as before since Ishant is still Ishant with just a bit more discipline. Shami and Umesh on the contrary regressesed. So actually it's mostly Bumrah who is making the difference. Even a one world class bowlers creates such a great impact. I was sceptical of Bumrah playing tests because I thought we might lose Burah the ODI bowler by doing so ruining his length in ODIs and also fitness.But he is handling it fairly well so far. Mosher and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 45 minutes ago, Pollack said: Bumrah has made a huge difference tbh. Without bumrah we would have been same as before since Ishant is still Ishant with just a bit more discipline. Shami and Umesh on the contrary regressesed. So actually it's mostly Bumrah who is making the difference. Even a one world class bowlers creates such a great impact. I was sceptical of Bumrah playing tests because I thought we might lose Burah the ODI bowler by doing so ruining his length in ODIs and also fitness.But he is handling it fairly well so far. Bumrah has. No doubt. However, you got to admit that the Ishant Sharma version 2.0 has happened at the same time too. Both have coincided with each other and hence we have a good attack. UrmiSinhaRay and Vilander 1 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Bumrah has. No doubt. However, you got to admit that the Ishant Sharma version 2.0 has happened at the same time too. Both have coincided with each other and hence we have a good attack. Wish shami was consistant focused on cricket as young as his official age. UrmiSinhaRay and Rightarmfast 1 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The question marks continue .. selection is one issue but performances can be questionable as well. I would back Steyn-Rabada-Ndigi-Philander to bowl Aus out here in a day. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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