Rishabh Pant performance watch thread

[beetle]

1 minute ago, PBN said:

true, . unless the wicket keeper is a dud or superman, catches/dismissals  are a result of the bowlers

That is true for all keeper....not just Pant.

True for all keepers till now. 

We can't take away credit for the record by saying it was as a result of bowlers.

 

It is a team game.

Bowlers results are also because of catches taken by keeper and fielders.

It works both ways.

[express bowling]

Pant's batting, in the 2nd and 3rd test match, has been pretty impressive.

 

--  He has sufficient time to play fast bowlers and is not hurried.  Handles bounce without too much fuss either.

--  He played the ball more or less under his eyes most of the time.  Did not flash or poke outside the off stump.

--  Defended with soft hands.

--  Played a wide array of shots without taking too much risk.

--  Could have played longer innings if he did not have to bat with our tail or bat near declarations and take extra risks.

 

His enemies are the ugly hoicks which he felt compelled to play in the first test and in the T20Is.

 

After cutting them out, he looked much better.  

 

This guy is potentially a 45+ average and all condition batsman.

 

Edited December 30, 2018 by express bowling

[PBN]

10 minutes ago, beetle said:

That is true for all keeper....not just Pant.

True for all keepers till now. 

We can't take away credit for the record by saying it was as a result of bowlers.

 

It is a team game.

Bowlers results are also because of catches taken by keeper and fielders.

It works both ways.

this isn't about pant. it was for the general stat for catches/dismissals by wicketkeepers. IMO, that stat is induced by bowlers..keepers are expected to take regulation catches.  

[beetle]

3 minutes ago, PBN said:

this isn't about pant. it was for the general stat for catches/dismissals by wicketkeepers. IMO, that stat is induced by bowlers..keepers are expected to take regulation catches.  

Yes ...regulation ones. But not all catches are regulation ones.

Plus....if bowlers are  confident about the keeper,they are free to bowl the way they want.

 

Pant is confident against pacers so the fast bowlers can go all out unlike in the past.

 

Similarly,spinners must be a little less confident because Pant is not perfect against spinners...unlike the earlier keepers.

[King Tendulkar]

What a disgrace not in odi squad.  Crime v indian cricket this

 

The power of dhoni/srini axis of evil to keep grandad msd in team for some retirement farewell in wc is disgusting

 

Pant developing so good.  He would have gone in to odis and played more orthodox but still aggressive.  Could have been sensational and match winner by world cup, hard hitter but with more straighter bat.

 

This is crime v india cricket.  Never seen such a thing

[rtmohanlal]

Pant for his inexperience has been  okay  in this series. A bat avg: of  32  in   a  generally bowling friendly series   is satisfactory by every bit. Even Kohli is avg:ing ony 43+ as of now and that tells a lot.Also he was very consistant with the lowest score of 25.He only needs to develop that temperament for capitalizing on the starts and  that would surely come with experience .Keeping too has been ok with a bit more polishing required.

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, beetle said:

Yes ...regulation ones. But not all catches are regulation ones.

Plus....if bowlers are  confident about the keeper,they are free to bowl the way they want.

 

Pant is confident against pacers so the fast bowlers can go all out unlike in the past.

 

Similarly,spinners must be a little less confident because Pant is not perfect against spinners...unlike the earlier keepers.

Past keeper always complained about his fingers

[beetle]

51 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

The power of dhoni/srini axis of evil to keep grandad msd in team for some retirement farewell in wc is disgusting

Ranji nahi khelega.....but plays power games along with his mama....

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[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

Pant for his inexperience has been  okay  in this series. A bat avg: of  32  in   a  generally bowling friendly series   is satisfactory by every bit. Even Kohli is avg:ing ony 43+ as of now and that tells a lot.Also he was very consistant with the lowest score of 25.He only needs to develop that temperament for capitalizing on the starts and  that would surely come with experience .Keeping too has been ok with a bit more polishing required.

He got out most of the time only when he attacked.

[rtmohanlal]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

He got out most of the time only when he attacked.

yes but there were  times in these 6 inns where he needed to show a bit of self restraint and play according to the situation and play for longer periods .Hope he learn with experience. Not a bad start by any stretch 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Not being in the shorter format squads will hurt his development. Extremely poor call to drop him from the squads when they needed to back him. He needs to be in theinternational set up to improve further.

 

I still have hope that he will play in the WC for us. The two oldie keepers are a few failures away from getting disgraced and they will not disappoint.

[kooljatt]

13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

He got out most of the time only when he attacked.

Also pretty hard when you have all fielders on boundaries and bowlers bowling negative lines. He will be a finished product if he could add stealing 1-2’s like Kohli. I truly believe if he opens he will be like Sehwag

[neel roy]

On 12/30/2018 at 8:40 AM, express bowling said:

Pant's batting, in the 2nd and 3rd test match, has been pretty impressive.

 

--  He has sufficient time to play fast bowlers and is not hurried.  Handles bounce without too much fuss either.

--  He played the ball more or less under his eyes most of the time.  Did not flash or poke outside the off stump.

--  Defended with soft hands.

--  Played a wide array of shots without taking too much risk.

--  Could have played longer innings if he did not have to bat with our tail or bat near declarations and take extra risks.

 

His enemies are the ugly hoicks which he felt compelled to play in the first test and in the T20Is.

 

After cutting them out, he looked much better.  

 

This guy is potentially a 45+ average and all condition batsman.

 

Exactly. At the start of the season with Saha gone we would have snapped on the hands of any batsmen forget WK who will score 530 plus runs at an average of near 40 and add to it 40 + dismissals with a century in Oval where he nearly won the match... in Aus he has the third best avg after Pujara and Kohli.. lol we dont even know how lucky we are to have him.and LOL he is only 20!!!

Edited December 31, 2018 by neel roy

[King Tendulkar]

Crime against india cricket not in odi squad

Edited December 31, 2018 by King Tendulkar

[Gollum]

Fitting that my interest in Indian cricket died along with my hero Saha's departure from the scheme of things. He was the last of the Indian cricketers I was emotionally invested in. 

[Trichromatic]

Half centuries by Indian wicketkeepers in Australia

 

Player	Runs	Mins	BF	4s	6s	SR	Inns		Opposition	Ground	Start Date
FM Engineer	89	110	-	14	0	-	2		v Australia	Adelaide	23 Dec 1967
KS More	67*	189	134	5	0	50.00	1		v Australia	Melbourne	26 Dec 1991
PA Patel	62	61	50	11	0	124.00	1		v Australia	Sydney	2 Jan 2004
MS Dhoni	57*	101	77	8	0	74.02	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2012
SMH Kirmani	55	137	133	4	0	41.35	4		v Australia	Brisbane	2 Dec 1977
RR Pant	51*	-	86	4	0	59.30	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2019
SMH Kirmani	51	146	124	7	0	41.12	4		v Australia	Adelaide	28 Jan 1978

 

 

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Half centuries by Indian wicketkeepers in Australia

 

Player	Runs	Mins	BF	4s	6s	SR	Inns		Opposition	Ground	Start Date
FM Engineer	89	110	-	14	0	-	2		v Australia	Adelaide	23 Dec 1967
KS More	67*	189	134	5	0	50.00	1		v Australia	Melbourne	26 Dec 1991
PA Patel	62	61	50	11	0	124.00	1		v Australia	Sydney	2 Jan 2004
MS Dhoni	57*	101	77	8	0	74.02	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2012
SMH Kirmani	55	137	133	4	0	41.35	4		v Australia	Brisbane	2 Dec 1977
RR Pant	51*	-	86	4	0	59.30	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2019
SMH Kirmani	51	146	124	7	0	41.12	4		v Australia	Adelaide	28 Jan 1978

 

 

I remember pappu patel's dashing 50 very well. tonked mcgill for quick runs, when we rattled up that huge 705/7.

[Laaloo]

36 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Half centuries by Indian wicketkeepers in Australia

 

Player	Runs	Mins	BF	4s	6s	SR	Inns		Opposition	Ground	Start Date
FM Engineer	89	110	-	14	0	-	2		v Australia	Adelaide	23 Dec 1967
KS More	67*	189	134	5	0	50.00	1		v Australia	Melbourne	26 Dec 1991
PA Patel	62	61	50	11	0	124.00	1		v Australia	Sydney	2 Jan 2004
MS Dhoni	57*	101	77	8	0	74.02	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2012
SMH Kirmani	55	137	133	4	0	41.35	4		v Australia	Brisbane	2 Dec 1977
RR Pant	51*	-	86	4	0	59.30	1		v Australia	Sydney	3 Jan 2019
SMH Kirmani	51	146	124	7	0	41.12	4		v Australia	Adelaide	28 Jan 1978

 

 

Pant on 71*

 

Moves to 2nd place on that list. Let's hope he doesn't show up on this list :)

[CSK Fan]

18 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Pant on 71*

 

Moves to 2nd place on that list. Let's hope he doesn't show up on this list :)

What's indian keepers 100 stats in Australia?