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Posted
3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Since the day when Walsh let Salim jaffer go with warning (a match they ended up losing and couldn't make it to semi because of that) this act of not mankading is considered some "Nobel peace prize" awardsque act by all sundries. This is 100% cricket law. There should ideally be no hazy area. Technically it doesn't matter if he is only 1 inch out or 5 yards out. It is all the same.  How hard it is to keep the bat in if not the whole body until he releases. You will still have enough time especially with a spinner bowling to have a head start.

Yes. There is no grey area here. If you extend this further, then run out should not be done if a batsman slips and fumbles while taking a run. Stumping should not be done just because a batsman lunged forward and while trying to move back, took his foot off the ground for a split second. And if a catch spills out of a fielder's hands, the fielder next to him should not dive and catch it.  The batsman should be given a gentle warning and let off in all such cases with a smile.

Batters have no qualms taking guard right handed and smacking the ball like a left hander but expect bowlers to be generous and noble towards them. Commentators who praise the switch hit as a genius move need to praise Mankading as a genius move too. The bowler can do whatever is legal to get a batsman out, period. But they bash the bowler because it is their mindset that somehow, a bowler is a mere ballboy and should not exceed his aukaat(status) with smart moves. This is total hypocrisy. And, hypocrisy is showering loads of sympathies and welcoming back two convicted overseas cheaters with open arms but bashing one of our own players for operating well within the law.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Lannister said:

I hope someone does this to brat Kohli and see him whining all the way to the dressing room.

 

If you are rooting for the opposition, this is the golden time for laughs. 

Yeah and end their career as well.

Posted
5 minutes ago, nevada said:

Yes. There is no grey area here. If you extend this further, then run out should not be done if a batsman slips and fumbles while taking a run. Stumping should not be done just because a batsman lunged forward and while trying to move back, took his foot off the ground for a split second. And if a catch spills out of a fielder's hands, the fielder next to him should not dive and catch it.  The batsman should be given a gentle warning and let off in all such cases with a smile.

Batters have no qualms taking guard right handed and smacking the ball like a left hander but expect bowlers to be generous and noble towards them. Commentators who praise the switch hit as a genius move need to praise Mankading as a genius move too. The bowler can do whatever is legal to get a batsman out, period. But they bash the bowler because it is their mindset that somehow, a bowler is a mere ballboy and should not exceed his aukaat(status) with smart moves. This is total hypocrisy. And, hypocrisy is showering loads of sympathies and welcoming back two convicted overseas cheaters with open arms but bashing one of our own players for operating well within the law.

Absolutely.. There are grey areas in the game and we should leave it at just that.

It takes a lot of conviction to swim against the tide and knowing well that he will be criticized he still went for it.. Well that act has actually won the game for his team , one gone over to the next one

Posted (edited)

Ashwin did nothing wrong,its within the law.He played ruthlessly but fairly,though not in a gentlemanly fashion.He's captain with an immense amount of pressure on him and that showed.

Edited by Tendulkar1996
Posted

No one is stopping any player do this. Its allways Indians and West Indians ( I dare to say even South African and Kiwis) who are supposed to let go of rule twisting by English and Aussies.

Posted
Just now, mishra said:

I mentioned this in previous comment of mine on this thread. I saw the repeat yesterday and noticed Butler cheating everytime in that over.

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/113082-ashwin-your-a-ficking-disgrace/?do=findComment&comment=3878117

Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. 

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. 

I want to make a small distinction. In test arena, Most batsman are chilled relaxed. And its a rarity the back while delivery is released. But when crunch time comes where ball vs runs equation becomes vital, batsman start leaving the crease. Sometime, A quick single or a double becomes possible simply because they have taken the start. The batsman know it very well and hence they do it. Only ones with higher moral standards dont go past the popping crease.

Edited by mishra
Posted
18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. 

TBH, I even dont care if batsman is on the other end. For me, There is a rule and every bowler knows the rule very clearly, as soon as bowler sees batsman taking a head start, he gets distracted and it impacts the rythm and accuracy of bowler, as he starts thinking whether he should warn/mankad or not? So instead of looking at where he should deliver the ball he is distracted to see where non strikers foot/bat is.

 

This has a huge impact. People/fans cant see this aspect unless they have been through this.

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