England has gems like Buttler & Bairstow as wicketkeepers whereas we are stuck with 40 year old Dhoni

[SecondSlip]

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this

[sandeep]

You are about 20 months late with this genius insight.

 

I wrote this a more than a year ago - have been harping on this for more than 2.  

 

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/articles.html/need-a-power-4-to-soar-to-the-2019-world-cup-r85/

Edited May 14, 2019 by sandeep

[SecondSlip]

2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

You are about 20 months late with this genius insight.

Dhoni was huffing and puffing on these same pitches last year during our tour of England where these guys Buttler and Bairstow are hitting match winning centuries at ease

Edited May 14, 2019 by SecondSlip

[putrevus]

Dhoni was never good even in his prime in chasing big targets.Now Dhoni is big big liability in chasing big targets.He simply cannot do it.

 

Karthik is another useless fellow, I have no idea why the moron MSK selected Karthik over Pant.

[vvvslaxman]

You can cry for some time and then laugh :)  This was decided in 2015 world cup. They reap what they sow. If they get kicked out badly they will do some shake ups.

[sandeep]

9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

You can cry for some time and then laugh :)  This was decided in 2015 world cup. They reap what they sow. If they get kicked out badly they will do some shake ups.

Bhai its a crappy sport where at any time there are hardly 3-4 quality teams that are genuine contenders for the WC.  If India makes the semi-final and loses - like 2015 - most will be satisfied.  Nobody will complain that this team was given the all-time best ever bowling attack, had plenty of batsmen in the team and on the bench, and failed to deliver better results.  

 

We are like this only.  

[vvvslaxman]

Dhoni's job = Proxy captaincy. That's it. Kohli can't act on his own. He will need the services of others. Otherwise like RCB we will finish at the bottom.

[mani sha]

Kohli will still say we did well 

 

boo dhoni boo

[maniac]

Well atleast Dhoni is better than Ashish Nehra when it comes to giving advice. 

[zen]

The problem is that no one forced Ind to select the squad it did! 

[maniac]

Also England have evolved so much. They have a pool of 9-10 140+ bowlers. Even their allrounders like Stokes hit 140+ with ease. Someone like Sam Curran and Willey who are little slower can still swing in and bowl late 130s and they all bat.

 

Forget Bairstow and Butler. They have keepers like Billings and Duckett  who can still give it a mighty thump.

 

Same with Australia they have a pool of 140+ bowlers and some fantastic strikers of the ball. They are behind us in the keeping department though even though I think Handscombe can solve that problem if he keeps full time.

 

In the entire IPL not a single newbie Indian batsman looked like he can take on quality pace bowling or can hit the long ball.

 

the good bowlers cannot bat and the good batsman cannot bowl or field.

 

No wonder Shankar looks that attractive in terms of being a pick.

 

Yes Pant is tremendous but apart from him who else? Kishan is still a work in progress but has tremendous potential though.

 

None of the 140+ bowlers can field or hold the bat to save their lives.

 

Among spinners Gopal might be the only bowler who can bat a bit.

 

No wonder we are fascinated by hacks like Krunal Pandya,Jadeja,Krishnappa gowtham etc.

 

 

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Dhoni's job = Proxy captaincy. That's it. Kohli can't act on his own. He will need the services of others. Otherwise like RCB we will finish at the bottom.

Not making Final = bottom.  Which team really deserves to play in the WC final ahead of us?  Its poor team leadership and management if we don't make the final.  Nothing else.  30 years of being a fan, I can't ever remember the bowling unit being this good.

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Not making Final = bottom.  Which team really deserves to play in the WC final ahead of us?  Its poor team leadership and management if we don't make the final.  Nothing else.  30 years of being a fan, I can't ever remember the bowling unit being this good.

India is the top 2-3 in the world and even with this team the expectation is to sleep walk into the semis atleast.

 

However given the amount of talent available, given how exciting the u-19 team has been in the last few years we shouldn’t be searching  for specific positions, we should have 2-3 backups for every position out there.

 

India looks like a top 3 team because rest of the teams are weak not because we look formidable.

 

Indian team in last years u-19 wc was must watch television. Indian senior team currently just like their favorite motto is a laborious “process” which is on autopilot.

[zen]

Ind would need to play well in this WC or it could find its wheels coming out mid-way in the tournament! .... There is no guaranteed SF spot 

[vvvslaxman]

49 minutes ago, maniac said:

India is the top 2-3 in the world and even with this team the expectation is to sleep walk into the semis atleast.

 

However given the amount of talent available, given how exciting the u-19 team has been in the last few years we shouldn’t be searching  for specific positions, we should have 2-3 backups for every position out there.

 

India looks like a top 3 team because rest of the teams are weak not because we look formidable.

 

Indian team in last years u-19 wc was must watch television. Indian senior team currently just like their favorite motto is a laborious “process” which is on autopilot.

India lacks a surprising element. All these guys have been playing for years. Every team knows their weaknesses, strengths by now. Even a rock can set field for these guys.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Not making Final = bottom.  Which team really deserves to play in the WC final ahead of us?  Its poor team leadership and management if we don't make the final.  Nothing else.  30 years of being a fan, I can't ever remember the bowling unit being this good.

Actually India's second string bowling can be better than many of our past bowling line ups. With Gopal, Rahul Chahar, Saini, Khaleel. We are becoming a strong bowling force. But gradually we are becoming a poorer fielding side, also a side with no batting depth. 

[Bigg Brother]

Even if Dhoni is ousted, England's reserve players' pool is way ahead of India's. You will see definite changes if England wont go on to win wc.. They will move on from the weak links to give opportunity to new players unlike our team who were happy with SF exit last time with Dhoni's PR circulating fake pics of him crying.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

21 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

Even if Dhoni is ousted, England's reserve players' pool is way ahead of India's. You will see definite changes if England wont go on to wc.. They will move on from the weak links to give opportunity to new players unlike our team who were happy with SF exit last time with Dhoni's PR circulating fake pics of him crying.

I am not sure England did exactly go in the perfect direction. Their bowling is the worst in the world at this point. They rely on racking up big scores on roads. 

[SK_IH]

You can blame the Wrogn for that. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

You can blame the Wrogn for that. 

Yes. Rayudu is our no.4 He announced long back which he never needed to do.