Vihari or Hardik - Who provides more value to the team

[Khota]

So Vihari gets to play and the team is 2-0. Who in the opinion of forum members provides better value.

[Ankit_sharma03]

If hardik wud have played we still wud have won 2-0 against WI

If binny wud have played we still wud have won 2-0 against WI

 

[bahubali]

At first glance I thought Virat or Hardik.....

[Suhaan]

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Edited September 9, 2019 by Suhaan

[tweaker]

In the series against Windies Vihari provided more value to the team

[putrevus]

For this team which is so weak in batting, it is Vihari by long shot.Hardik does not command a place in this team.His batting is too weak.By playing him in England, India lost golden opportunity to win that series.

 

Ideally you want both of them to play in the team especially on away tours but for that to happen Vihari has to open, is he willing to do that and how well can he do that is the question.

 

I don't see how Hardik can find a place in the team for home series.

[Khota]

3 hours ago, putrevus said:

For this team which is so weak in batting, it is Vihari by long shot.Hardik does not command a place in this team.His batting is too weak.By playing him in England, India lost golden opportunity to win that series.

 

I don't see how Hardik can find a place in the team for home series.

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[Ankit_sharma03]

4 hours ago, putrevus said:

For this team which is so weak in batting, it is Vihari by long shot.Hardik does not command a place in this team.His batting is too weak.By playing him in England, India lost golden opportunity to win that series.

Yes hardik doesnt command a place but so didnt anyone else.....

To his credit he played a damn good knock in Sa and won us a game in ENG.....about consistency even if u take pujara overseas ull only find 2 consistent series in his bag in all these years . Consistency overseas is damn tough for specialist forget a developing all rounder .....only virat has been that guy overseas who has been consistent 

 

India didnt lost becoz of pandya , if anything we only won one game coz of him.  India lost becoz no one else apart from kohli stepped up or kohli did not have smith kind of series which is unfair on anyone to demand ......Extra batsman wont have made no diff specially when none commanded a place......and bowlers were anderson, broad who eats everyone alive in england.......

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Ideally you want both of them to play in the team especially on away tours but for that to happen Vihari has to open, is he willing to do that and how well can he do that is the question.

No both shudnt play....if it comes to that means one of them has done so well that u cant drop him which was the case with viru when tehy cudnt fit him in middle so opening was the only option left. 

Vihari has had a good series but owning a place is lil distant as of now.....specially we need to see more of him overseas. Good thing is he can bowl which was the main objective to get in pandya ....to add jadeja batting looks to have improved

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I don't see how Hardik can find a place in the team for home series.

As of now he wudnt which is not bad as pandya can play domestic cricket or A games if its happening. 

In home series we can play all sought of combination n win but planning for overseas tour is important so if Vihari is the one they think wud be an overseas choice then play him but if they think they ll play pandya then let him play n get some confidence in batting

Edited September 9, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Vk1]

Rahane is anyways going to fail and fall soon.. Vihari can move to 5, Hardik @6.. win-win

[Suhaan]

Pandya or pandyas position remains to be the Achilles heels for this side 

I have been supporting him since he burst on to the screen,but seems he hasn't mastered either of his  two crafts,so doesn't merit a place in the test xi

His performance from 2016 has been mixed bag,one two great performances here and there but mostly it has been below mediocre

TM should still play him a year to back his talent and potential,then its all destiny

In India i dont see him in starting xi,even if they rest Bumrah ,playing him over Saini ,Siraj will be unfair on their part

[Tibarn]

Unless Kohli trusts/develops Pandya to bowl more overs, his place in the side comes into question. 

[cricketfan28]

pandya , his attitude is really an asset .

[Khota]

4 hours ago, cricketfan28 said:

pandya , his attitude is really an asset .

I have a very good attitude. I should be in the team.

[express bowling]

As of today ....

 

Vihari adds more value in tests 

 

Hardik adds more value in ODIs and T20Is.

 

But the 3rd option of Ashwin replacing the 6th batsman, should also be an option on certain types of flattish pitches.

[Real McCoy]

Both provide more value than

 

[coffee_rules]

Hardik is a waste in test cricket. He has to earn a place either in batting or bowling. He doesn't earn it  in either. Vihari is the real deal for now. Nair deserved a longer rope, but looks like Vihari it is for now.

Edited September 10, 2019 by coffee_rules

[Forever Indian]

4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Both provide more value than

 

Don't make fun of our future Test Opener!

[bowl_out]

No Hardik for Tests.. simply because you can't really define a role for him as a batsman or a bowler that you can hold him accountable for... In LoIs, he is a great asset..

 

So Vihari in Tests for me.. he is a batsman (his primary role), who can chip in with a few overs.

 

[Muloghonto]

Vihari would be ideal in Indian conditions. His bowling is on the ideal part timer level like Segway or Ganguly and slightly below Sachin. So against SENA teams in our backyard, he provides a third spinner option for 10-15 overs an innings without weakening the batting lineup. Pandya can be more useful overseas but for that he really has to find consistency in his batting. For now it’s Hanuma.

[SUMO]

no place for bits and pieces players in test cricket. Hardik has to get into the team based on one skill set, which he doesn't.