Popular Post Serpico Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 Rather than simply giving it to whoever leads run tally, should they also take S/R into consideration? Like they can multiply the run rally with strike rate and divide it with 100 [runs x sr/100]. Call them ceat tyres Smart Runs or whatever. This way players will have an additional impetus to not just rake in runs but also faster? beetle, nevada, express bowling and 9 others 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK_IH Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 That would be a better decision & same thing should be done with bowlers. These smart stats should be used to decide the winners. Just like selfish batsman, bowlers also get cheap late order wickets to enhance their tally. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Serpico said: Rather than simply giving it to whoever leads run tally, should they also take S/R into consideration? Like they can multiply the run rally with strike rate and divide it with 100 [runs x sr/100]. Call them ceat tyres Smart Runs or whatever. This way players will have an additional impetus to not just rake in runs but also faster? Such an brilliant idea would be outrightly rejected because it would seperate the players who play for themselves than playing for team. beetle, express bowling and sergio04 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Serpico said: Rather than simply giving it to whoever leads run tally, should they also take S/R into consideration? Like they can multiply the run rally with strike rate and divide it with 100 [runs x sr/100]. Call them ceat tyres Smart Runs or whatever. This way players will have an additional impetus to not just rake in runs but also faster? So, according to this, A who 25 runs scored in 5 deliveries and is out in a losing cause is worth more than B who scored 60 in 30 and not out in a winning game. 25*(25/5) vs 60* (60/30) 125 vs 120 Why multiply? Why not add the S/r? Too much math. I think the Orange cap criteria is good as it is . Intuitively the person on the crease for the longer duration had the bigger impact. Edited October 12, 2020 by Mariyam Tattieboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 BCCI and broadcasters dont innovate at all.. they simply search for things in other countries and sports and copy. They still show batting and bowling averages in T20s Lol.. Instead show the count of match winning contributons made.. its not too hard to evaluate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 They have MVP award for both batsmen and bowlers .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shychipmunk Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: So, according to this, A who 25 runs scored in 5 deliveries and is out in a losing cause is worth more than B who scored 60 in 30 and not out in a winning game. 25*(25/5) vs 60* (60/30) 125 vs 120 Why multiply? Why not add the S/r? Too much math. I think the Orange cap criteria is good as it is . Intuitively the person on the crease for the longer duration had the bigger impact. It actually works well, 25 off 5 is definitely better as you are allowing someone else 25 balls to score another 45 runs which becomes 70 off 30 and is better than 60 off 30 ! If someone is scoring at less than run a ball, his points should decrease ! Edited October 12, 2020 by shychipmunk Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Like the idea proposed for batsmens cap, Bowlers cap also can be given on some combination including wickets, strike rate and average criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Serpico said: Rather than simply giving it to whoever leads run tally, should they also take S/R into consideration? Like they can multiply the run rally with strike rate and divide it with 100 [runs x sr/100]. Call them ceat tyres Smart Runs or whatever. This way players will have an additional impetus to not just rake in runs but also faster? Agree....number of balls faced has to be a criteria. Only the openers or number 3 has a chance at the orange cap now...which is not fair. Tewatia's runs are more useful than Dhawan's .....but he will not get to bat everytime and that too just a few overs. SK_IH, Mariyam and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mariyam said: So, according to this, A who 25 runs scored in 5 deliveries and is out in a losing cause is worth more than B who scored 60 in 30 and not out in a winning game. 25*(25/5) vs 60* (60/30) 125 vs 120 Why multiply? Why not add the S/r? Too much math. I think the Orange cap criteria is good as it is . Intuitively the person on the crease for the longer duration had the bigger impact. The Strike Rate criterion may seem unfair if we consider 1 or 2 or 3 games. But the Orange Cap is awarded after 14 to 17 games for each team. The highest strike rates after each IPL have ranged between 180 and 204 in the last 6 or 7 years. The most common being around 190. Let's say the highest run scorer ... A ... scores 700 runs at a low strike rate of 120. So, the product becomes 840. Let's say the highest strike rate is 200 for the tournament and belongs to B. This means B has to score 421 to get the Orange Cap. ( 840 / 2 ) + 1. 421 runs at 200 SR is probably better than 700 runs at 120 SR. If A scores 700 runs at a good SR of 140 then the product becomes 980 ... and would require 491 runs by B at a SR of 200 to be surpassed. ( 980 / 2 ) + 1. If we consider the whole tournament then the strike rate multiplier looks good. Edited October 12, 2020 by express bowling Serpico, BacktoCricaddict, speedheat and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Have said this earlier - runs without considering SR is T20s is pointless KL’s most impactful runs were the ones he scored after getting dropped by Kohli v RCB. Other than that he has usually passed the burden of making impact to others. IIRC, even at Sharjah, he only hit a 6 in 50 odd balls v RR Edited October 12, 2020 by zen express bowling, sergio04, beetle and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Great suggestions man, liked it express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 this criteria is anyways unfair to middle n lower middle order batsman, openers always have 20 overs to bat which is why always in the list ull see top 3 players mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 ideally their shud be an impact index but normal public wont understand that , half of the ppl here dont understand that forget general public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Or they must stop attaching so much importance to the Orange and Purple caps ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I think among top 3 run getters whoever has the best strike rate should get it. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I think among top 3 run getters whoever has the best strike rate should get it. Quick and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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