Do England have a chance of beating India in India?

[Sandeep99]

I'm only worried about Stokes and Buttler. These feckers have winning mentality and really fight well. If we see off those two, no reason we can't win the series comfortably.

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

I'm only worried about Stokes and Buttler. These feckers have winning mentality and really fight well. If we see off those two, no reason we can't win the series comfortably.

Butler 1-2 inning khelega lekin 8-10 catch chodega 

[WC2011INDIA]

Rahane's average against England is very concerning. Barring two 50s and a 100 in 2014 at lords and a 80 something in last tour in England, he hasn't performed against them. In Indian conditions, his average dips dramatically against them. Needs to rectify this.

[neel roy]

Siraj on day 4 pitch and reverse swing is more dangerous than Bumrah.. Siraj Umesh Ishant will be enough.. Ashwin Kuldeep as spinners. Batting we are well stocked. We have Karun Nair, Manish Pandey, Sreyas Iyer waiting. All good players of spin.. lol if we need extra keepers Dinesh Karthik is a monster in fc cricket..check his record.. we are not short of options at home. Saurashtra cricket team will easily draw a match with full strength England team in ahmedabad

Edited January 12, 2021 by neel roy

[nitinbwj]

53 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

I'm only worried about Stokes and Buttler. These feckers have winning mentality and really fight well. If we see off those two, no reason we can't win the series comfortably.

Stokes has the ability to single handedly turn the match. He is the biggest threat

[Gollum]

Stokes is Ashwin's bunny, got him out at least once every test they played against each other. Warner top at 10 (out of 15 innings), Cook at 9, by the end of 2021 expecting Stokes-Ashwin H2H to match Atherton-McGrath. So many LHBs in Eng side, if Ash is fit it's going to be 

[Charlie_]

3 hours ago, Majestic said:

I hope Bumrah is available for first two tests. Then Yadav comes in place of him from 3rd test.

 

1st test -Bumrah, Ishant, Siraj

2nd test- Bumrah, Ishant, Siraj (Saini as backup)

3rd test- Umesh, Ishant, Siraj or Saini

4th test- Umesh and two of other three

 

 

I am late to the party but why arent Bumrah, Umesh, Ashwin available for all four tests against England? Its 20 days away and all these three have minor injuries. I understand Shami and Jadeja have broken bones. 

[Gollum]

2020 was a quiet year for Kohli, not a single 100. Can't keep a player like him down for long. And this fantastic performance by India in his absence, Rahane's leadership and captaincy related talk by some sections, 36 ao in his last innings, 1-4 defeat in Eng in 2018....all will combine to make him more determined. And the wonderful event of birth of his girl is sure to play a positive effect. England is going to face the wrath of Darth Kohli once again. 600+ runs, 3 100s including at least a daddy 100, MOS, calling it now. He WILL take back #1 spot in 2 months time. 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Gollum

[SecondSlip]

1. Rohit Sharma
2. Shubman Gill
3. Cheteshwar Pujara 
4. Virat Kohli (C)
5. Ajinkya Rahane 
6. Hardik Pandya
7. Rishabh Pant (WK)
8. Ravi Ashwin
9. Kuldeep Yadav 
10. Ishant Sharma 
11. Jasprit Bumrah 

Hardik should be our 6th batsman / 5th bowler in Asia. The above team is more than good enough to whitewash England 4-0

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

the wrath of Darth Kohli

Darth Vader Kohli better not come back as a captain, alas we can all dream 

[sage]

Rohit Sharma is Bradman at home so all is sorted. The rest of the team can rest on his laurels. Kohli isn't needed 

[RajBan]

11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 why ?? he is good enough to play as bat in home condition. He will masacre whatever altuu faaltu spinner they will come in with, his batting against pace is as good as any

So does Iyer then. He is an even better bat than Pandya in sub continent when it comes to consistency. Yes Pandya can hit spin out of the ground, but Iyer is not bad either in that respect. His first class record in subcontinent is as good as it comes and if Pandya is not bowling then he should be calibrated against pure batsmen where there are quite a few ahead of him.

[RajBan]

11 hours ago, zen said:

  
FYI, avgs 60+ with the bat in the subcon 

True. He has a decent record based on the chances he has got. But the sample size is not that huge and against SL and Afg. Still he has proved he is handy as a batsman but then if batting prowess in subcontinent is the only criteria then shouldn't Vihari, Iyer be ahead of him in terms of overall ability, application and consistency?

[ShoonyaSifar]

Will depend on how well they go vs Sri Lanka. If they come to India after a series win, they will put up a good fight vs us. But then they will be playing 7 back to back away tests in Asia. Will hardly have fit players available by the end of the series. I wouldn't be surprised to see last 2 tests being played between India A and Eng Lions squad.

 

Good opportunity for us to try out the bench strength and give more confidence to the youngsters. Will that happen under Kohli though? He could bring back Dhawan, Unadkat, Kaul, Dhawal Kulkarni, Karn Sharma , Vijay Shankar and Kedar 

[zen]

59 minutes ago, RajBan said:

True. He has a decent record based on the chances he has got. But the sample size is not that huge and against SL and Afg. Still he has proved he is handy as a batsman but then if batting prowess in subcontinent is the only criteria then shouldn't Vihari, Iyer be ahead of him in terms of overall ability, application and consistency?

Because he has more potential - quite comfortable v pace, bounce and spin (swing can be difficult) .... Add the fact that when he bowls, he can provide more flexibility to the team 

 

[QuarantineTormentino]

They really shouldn’t be able to but knowing how Kohli bottles it under pressure (we are playing for wtc final spot) can’t be sure. Maybe if Rahane captains we can be 100% sure of winning.

[RajBan]

7 minutes ago, zen said:

Because he has more potential - quite comfortable v pace, bounce and spin (swing can be difficult) .... Add the fact that when he bowls, he can provide more flexibility to the team 

 

Agree if he bowls, but what if he does not? The primary reason for fast tracking Pandya in Tests ahead of others has been his all round capabilities - decent bat down the order backed up by role as a 5th bowler which can be more than decent in helpful conditions. The entire  package brings certain balance to our Test squad and needless to say in LOIs. However if he is not bowling and simply claims his stake as a specialized batsman then he has to be compared with individuals who fall in that category and that's where in the long format there are people who should be ahead of him in the pecking order. Forget the long format, Pandya is not even bowling enough in ODi and T20, however in the short format this is not that big of a deal yet as his explosive batting down the order outweighs his unavailability as a bowler with no other serious competitors in scene.

[Rasgulla]

1 hour ago, QuarantineTormentino said:

They really shouldn’t be able to but knowing how Kohli bottles it under pressure (we are playing for wtc final spot) can’t be sure. Maybe if Rahane captains we can be 100% sure of winning.

Rahane is a walking stick against spin. Guy shouldn't even play in India! 

[Lone Wolf]

6 hours ago, sage said:

Rohit Sharma is Bradman at home so all is sorted. The rest of the team can rest on his laurels. Kohli isn't needed 

Bangladesh bowling made Rohit Bradman look like a Tailender so Tailunt has still his task cut out.  I am expecting Gill to have a monster series. 

[QuarantineTormentino]

1 hour ago, Rasgulla said:

Rahane is a walking stick against spin. Guy shouldn't even play in India! 

True, but he’s been pretty impressive as a captain. Plus looks like captaincy has a positive effect on his batsmanship. He can be to Kohli was faf was to ABD