3rd Test - India vs England, Pink Test - D/N - *WTC Knockout Encounter*

[nitinbwj]

If we get our bowling combination right in Eng and win a few tosses, green pitches will be their nightmare 

[Jay]

11 minutes ago, addicted4444 said:

We should complain if those grasslands lead to 1.5 day matches. 
 

The problem isn’t that England lost “unfairly” or any crap like that. Arguably, it’s only because the BCCI has been getting crap pitches prepared that England was able to steal a match in the series. On fair pitches the Indian team is superior to this English team. 
 

The problem is that this pitch led to the match being over in 5 sessions. And it only lasted that long because England messed up and chose 3 seamers. If they had Moeen Ali and Bess in their side, the game might have been over in the morning session today. 

Moeen averages 60 in India. Bess bowls full tosses. Result would have been different. Phainta for England regardless.

You want to play that game btw? 

Just imagine if Jadeja played? Or Shami and Umesh. 

[Jay]

7 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

WTH is up with Yuvraj tweeting stupidity criticising the pitch and suggesting that Harbhajan and Kumble might have got 800 and 1000 wickets respectively on this. 
What does he gain by this ? Is he mad ? He was crap against spin anyways. Would have got a pair. He had also started talking nonsense just like his father 

Supporting his era players to make them look better than our modern greats. Reeks of jealousy. *ing dweeb. 

 

He won us a WC but he was pure fodder in tests. 

[addicted4444]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

Moeen averages 60 in India. Bess bowls full tosses. Result would have been different. Phainta for England regardless.

You want to play that game btw? 

Just imagine if Jadeja played? Or Shami and Umesh. 

If Jadeja had played this match wouldnt have made it to the 2nd day. If Axar and Jadeja were bowling in tandem England wouldn't have survived 10 overs.

 

India won because it's the better team. I made that pretty obvious in my statement, to the point that the only reason I think England won the first match is because the BCCI prepared a shitty pitch.

 

But India being the better team and winning does not change the fact that this pitch was **** and made a mockery of test cricket.

Edited February 25, 2021 by addicted4444

[Jay]

Just now, addicted4444 said:

If Jadeja had played this match wouldnt have made it to the 2nd day. If Axar and Jadeja were bowling in tandem England wouldn't have survived 10 overs.

 

India won because it's the better team. I made that pretty obvious in my statement, to the point that the only reason I think England won the first match is because the BCCI prepared a shitty pitch.

 

But India being the better team and winning does not change the fact that this pitch was ****.

It's the pink ball bro. Even in Adelaide it was low scored. 36 ring a bell. Yet no one complained ? Why? 

 

Australia too scored 70 in the last innings whikst losing only 2 wickets. It's all mental. 

[Suhaan]

Why the hell we are complaining,TM thinks they have better spin arsenal than opposition and cashed on it, cricket is a game where plans backfire,they took the gamble and won but they went in the match backing their strength (just by a margin with no Shami,Umesh) and won it

It has much to do with securing a bertth in the WTC final which isn't bad either in your home

NZ rigged with their home conditions to maul visitors to make their path to final relatively hurdleless,not at all bad

Why we whine so much that to backing our strength (currently with absence of reverse specialist pacers)?

I won't blame Kaptaan Clown this time ?

[Yoda-esque]

Terrible batting by both sides ,playing for turn and missing straight balls rofl

[nitinbwj]

Get over this losing mentality and enjoy the win ffs. Pitch wasn’t bad, difficult yes but it was in the minds. India smoked 49 in 7 overs when the opposition scored 81 a.o. Did the pitch change in a few minutes ? No.

[addicted4444]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

It's the pink ball bro. Even in Adelaide it was low scored. 36 ring a bell. Yet no one complained ? Why? 

 

Australia too scored 70 in the last innings whikst losing only 2 wickets. It's all mental. 

Because that was 1 innings and a clear mental lapse? Both India and Australia batted almost full days in the first innings. In fact, India outscored Australia in the first innings.

 

Are you seriously comparing a pitch that led to 2/3 good complete innings vs a pitch that led to 0/3 good complete innings?

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, addicted4444 said:

Because that was 1 innings and a clear mental lapse? Both India and Australia batted almost full days in the first innings. In fact, India outscored Australia in the first innings.

 

Are you seriously comparing a pitch that led to 2/3 good complete innings vs a pitch that led to 0/3 good complete innings?

It's not much different though. There were tons of dropped catches from both sides especially India. Had India held on to the catches, Aussies would have crossed 120. 

 

This pitch was made to look bad by incompetent players of spin. Nothing wrong with the pitch at all. 

 

India scored 49 for 0 in the last innings. It's all mental. It's in your head. You need to read the ball. 

 

The way India were batting, 200 would have been possible by midday tomorrow. 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by Jay

[addicted4444]

2 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Get over this losing mentality and enjoy the win ffs. Pitch wasn’t bad, difficult yes but it was in the minds. India smoked 49 in 7 overs when the opposition scored 81 a.o. Did the pitch change in a few minutes ? No.

 

Scoreboard pressure is a thing. Also, they had Joe Root opening the bowling, that's how ridiculous the pitch was.

 

Joe Root was opening the bowling on the 2nd day of a test match and everyone thought that was the obviously right thing to do.

 

Credit to the India bowlers, and Axar especially, that they were able to handle the new ball so excellently. Bowling with a new ball is not easy for spinners.

[The Realist]

23 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

WTH is up with Yuvraj tweeting stupidity criticising the pitch and suggesting that Harbhajan and Kumble might have got 800 and 1000 wickets respectively on this. 
What does he gain by this ? Is he mad ? He was crap against spin anyways. Would have got a pair. He had also started talking nonsense just like his father 

Insert quote of his dad saying Dhoni will have to beg

 

@asterix

@maniac

@Laaloo

[nitinbwj]

Har jayo toh rona, draw ho toh rona, match na ho toh rona, Jeet jayo toh rona...Kya chewtiyapa hai 

[Laaloo]

34 minutes ago, Ravi_Shastri said:

@Rasgulla

Another thread opened by not zen and we won. 

Guess the new girl is crying in a corner? 

@zen 

[Yoda-esque]

Pitch was difficult but keep in mind england were 77/2 or something and india were 90/2 as well..

So what happened after that?

I see that batsmen rarely used their feet to spinners and, when they did the returns were good.

Most of the wickets were lbw or bowled which means the ball came on quickly and that batsmen got out trying to cut,play down the wrong line or were late in sweeping.

England should have course corrected in the second innings but they failed to learn from their mistakes.So blame the batsmen .

[Gollum]

Hope Eng retaliates by preparing some greentops when we visit. Low scoring encounters could play to this team's strengths. 

[Jay]

 

India to englund. 

[NameGoesHere]

If we had lost inside of 2 days, hell less than that, in a foreign country I can only imagine what the level of discourse would be here.

 

But here we won in less than 2 days.

 

I'm happy that we won, but hey? A Test that lasts less than 2 days needs to be examined.

[ShoonyaSifar]

28 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Nothing can be done if both batting lineup produce a **** show in the first 3 innings. Lakhs of people might have bought the ticket but they can't control the skillsets of the batsmen.  Both captains have alluded to that fact as well as the impact of pink ball 

Also wtf are you taking about regarding throwing away gains of Aus tour. You are unnecessarily being finicky 

Cannot blame the batsmen on such a pitch where even a part timer has 5 wickets for 8 runs. If such pitches become a norm, Test cricket will lose its charm. It's not a test of skills but becomes a lottery. Call me finicky, a hater, or cynical but nothing justifies a test ending under two days.

 

TM has to cop the blame for forcing the curator to stop watering the pitch from 3-4 days before the start in drier warmer weather. It not just shows that the TM has no confidence in the team to win on fair pitches but also reflects poorly on our ability to produce normal spinning wickets (which we have got used to in recent years).

 

The only instance of two similar back to back doctored pitches I can remember is NZ 2002. And those pitches got well deserved criticism. Interestingly NZ did not win a series at home for the next 30 months. That is what playing on substandard poorly prepared pitches can result in.

[Suhaan]

Most of them got out to ferking straight deliveries,what is the fuss about

India, England both played rubbish with the bat,they rode on the hype associated with the pitch and fumbled