India: Covid - II

[Stan AF]

55 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

India is the largest vaccine manufacturer. No country is making more vaccines than us or Have vaccines in spare.

 

There are atleast 10 states reporting severe vaccine shortage. They are closing vaccination centres because of no new stocks availability and the remaining stocks will last only a few days. We're producing far less than what we need to innoculate indian citizens on a daily basis. That's why we even stopped exporting.

 

https://www.firstpost.com/health/covid-19-vaccine-shortages-hit-poorer-countries-after-india-stops-exporting-jabs-from-serum-institute-9515971.html

 

In the meanwhile, The US is expected to have 300 million extra vaccine doses by august.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/u-s-could-have-300-million-extra-vaccine-doses-by-end-of-july-raising-concerns-over-hoarding/

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-04-15/report-us-expected-to-have-300-million-extra-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-in-july

 

AFter US, EU has exported 113.5 million doses of vaccine since jan 31.

 

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/eu-vaccine-exports-outstrip-number-of-shots-given-its-own-people

 

Our local demand for vaccinating indian citizens is so huge that we can't sit and wait for serum institute alone to produce all the vaccines locally. There is no shame in importing on a gradual basis from US and EU if possible and state governments must be allowed to procure vaccines as quickly as possible. That's why even the central government gave clearance to sputnik V and some US vaccines. We need to start vaccinating as many people as we can on a war time basis. As i type this there are 2.17 daily lakh infections in India.  There's simply no time to waste.

 

 

[Stan AF]

15 hours ago, mishra said:

Just heard two of my college buddies died. Humble request, please take precautions. 

Jesus. Sorry for your loss man.

Edited April 16, 2021 by Stan AF

[mishra]

36 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

Actually, Sputnik applied for EUA months ago when Covid was subsiding across the country. They submitted data as authorized by government and now they have the clearance. It took them months and not because of the current spike.

 

What's the prevailing wisdom in lemuria re US vaccines? Should the GoI approve US vaccines without Pfizer sharing data?

There is greater issue. GoI wants $5 vaccine and it wants it to manufactured (Now or immediate future) in India so that price could become $5. And finally it wants it now not by end of 2021 when pfizer has build a capacity to go beyond rich nations.

But pfizer or likes of them want countries like India to commit open their markets now (for say nothing or just few million million doses now) so that they can access Indian market  in 2022 onwards without any issue. And offcourse they have your media which will bring down every other $5 vaccine by saying their vaccine is superior. Superior vaccine politics is already happening

 

 

 

[rock777]

May god keep you all safe in covid times

[Trichromatic]

5 hours ago, Stan AF said:

I don't know what the present situation is but state governments must be given power to procure vaccines from other countries. That is what federalism means. Already many states are running out of stocks.

 

I don't trust this central government in dilli to do one thing correctly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please post source of this information that states are running short of vaccines. 

 

Would wait for reply. Post might be deleted as it is most likely the rumor. We don't want to spread rumors here.

 

[Stan AF]

3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

 

 

Please post source of this information that states are running short of vaccines. 

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/10-states-face-severe-covid-19-vaccine-shortage-here-s-a-list-101618047783891.html

[Trichromatic]

11 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/10-states-face-severe-covid-19-vaccine-shortage-here-s-a-list-101618047783891.html

 

That's 10th Apr report where Punjab CM claimed they have 5 days of vaccine only.

 

Quote

Punjab chief minister Captain Amarinder Singh joined the list of state heads talking about the dwindling vaccine doses on Saturday and said that its stock will only last for three days. "Punjab is left with only five days of supply (5.7 lakh Covid-19 vaccine doses) at the current levels of vaccinating 85000-90000 persons a day. If the state is able to meet its target of 2 lakh vaccines a day, then its current supplies will last only three days," Singh said during the meeting, news agency ANI reported.

 

 

So by 10th they had 5.7 lakhs doses which was expected to be over by 15/16 Apr. By today at best.

 

But as of now they have 4.85 lakhs doses available as per PIB.

 

Whom to be believe here?

 

Or is it that Punjab got fresh supplies in these 5 days and no longer have shortage?

 

[Clarke]

12 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

 

 

Please post source of this information that states are running short of vaccines. 

 

Would wait for reply. Post might be deleted as it is most likely the rumor. We don't want to spread rumors here.

 

That's what Maharashtra Telangana and other states are also saying, new channels have shown prime vaccination locations like BKC Mumbai out of stock. Whether that's central supply or internal state logistics issue is unclear, but the claims are quite mainstream.

[Trichromatic]

Same report claimed on 10th April.

 

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Jharkhand is facing a shortage of Covid-19 vaccines and is only left with stock for a couple of days, health minister Banna Gupta had said on Thursday. "We have stock for the next 1-2 days. We have made a request to the Union Health Minister and I am hopeful that he will provide the vaccines," Gupta was quoted as saying by ANI.

 

So by 12th April it should have been over. 

 

Afaik, people are still getting vaccines in Jharkhand. 

[ash]

The approval of Sputnik and also the decision to allow vaccines without local clinical trails clearly shows that the government is bothered about vaccine shortage. Wish they had taken this decision sooner, but private players should be allowed to enter the market as soon as possible, to manufacture or to import. A mix of govt vaccination drive and private markets should be the way to go forward, since it seems now that multiple doses are required. 

[ash]

19 hours ago, rkt.india said:

We have to live with this. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. People should live their life like they were before. It's not even that fatal.

There are multiple reports of young people in ICU dying. We can argue about the steps taken to control covid, but don't belittle and project as if Covid is nothing. 

[coffee_rules]

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/indias-covid-19-vaccinations-fall-from-peak-raw-material-shortage-hits-output-targets-974920.html

 

Raw material shortage in AZ vaccine due to US embargo. Vaccinations to be rationed 

[Clarke]

12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/indias-covid-19-vaccinations-fall-from-peak-raw-material-shortage-hits-output-targets-974920.html

 

Raw material shortage in AZ vaccine due to US embargo. Vaccinations to be rationed 

 

What's the use of chithi in DC 

 

Can our Southern Switzerland folks reach out and convince her in tamil so that greater Somalia can produce some vaccines.

[sandeep]

44 minutes ago, ash said:

There are multiple reports of young people in ICU dying. We can argue about the steps taken to control covid, but don't belittle and project as if Covid is nothing. 

As harsh as it sounds, things are going to get worse before they get better.  

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, Stan AF said:

 

There are atleast 10 states reporting severe vaccine shortage. They are closing vaccination centres because of no new stocks availability and the remaining stocks will last only a few days. We're producing far less than what we need to innoculate indian citizens on a daily basis. That's why we even stopped exporting.

 

https://www.firstpost.com/health/covid-19-vaccine-shortages-hit-poorer-countries-after-india-stops-exporting-jabs-from-serum-institute-9515971.html

 

In the meanwhile, The US is expected to have 300 million extra vaccine doses by august.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/u-s-could-have-300-million-extra-vaccine-doses-by-end-of-july-raising-concerns-over-hoarding/

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-04-15/report-us-expected-to-have-300-million-extra-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-in-july

 

AFter US, EU has exported 113.5 million doses of vaccine since jan 31.

 

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/eu-vaccine-exports-outstrip-number-of-shots-given-its-own-people

 

Our local demand for vaccinating indian citizens is so huge that we can't sit and wait for serum institute alone to produce all the vaccines locally. There is no shame in importing on a gradual basis from US and EU if possible and state governments must be allowed to procure vaccines as quickly as possible. That's why even the central government gave clearance to sputnik V and some US vaccines. We need to start vaccinating as many people as we can on a war time basis. As i type this there are 2.17 daily lakh infections in India.  There's simply no time to waste.

 

 

Yeah like US is so compassionate to sell vaccines. US even banned raw material to produce vaccines.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, ash said:

There are multiple reports of young people in ICU dying. We can argue about the steps taken to control covid, but don't belittle and project as if Covid is nothing. 

No one is saying covid is nothing. It's the third world war.

[gattaca]

2 hours ago, ash said:

The approval of Sputnik and also the decision to allow vaccines without local clinical trails clearly shows that the government is bothered about vaccine shortage. Wish they had taken this decision sooner, but private players should be allowed to enter the market as soon as possible, to manufacture or to import. A mix of govt vaccination drive and private markets should be the way to go forward, since it seems now that multiple doses are required. 

Approval of Sputnik doesn’t necessarily mean short it might be we want to vaccinate people much faster. I remember people were not interested in vaccinating earlier they were preferring Bharat biotech after blood clot reports of AstraZeneca. That gives a bad statistic on demand as well. Now the situation has gone bad people want to get any vaccine available.

Edited April 16, 2021 by gattaca

[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

No one is saying covid is nothing. It's the third world war.

Lol last year when Covid was hitting peak , the entire India was finding imaginary murderer of Sushant Singh Rajput. Covid is dangerous as long as your near ones get infected or media is interested in Covid. Once media forget about then india can go after whatever they want and india forget it

Edited April 16, 2021 by Singh bling

[kepler37b]

3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/indias-covid-19-vaccinations-fall-from-peak-raw-material-shortage-hits-output-targets-974920.html

 

Raw material shortage in AZ vaccine due to US embargo. Vaccinations to be rationed 

 

US must be dragged to WTO and flogged heavily for this.  But again, we did not utter a word when Obama lectured on religions tolerance right in our country.  

[randomGuy]

10 hours ago, rkt.india said:

No one is saying covid is nothing. It's the third world war.

Aptly put.