jf1gp_1 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 For all those playing management roles in their professional life. Statement 'ill take care of you' is what is most used before hike and post hike letters almost 99% react how Saha did. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, raki05 said: What does chokli have Maa raki05 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Statement 'ill take care of you' is what is most used This is a sports arena & there are no guarantees in sports, or life actually, so if Saha was just waiting to come straight back in he was either born yesterday (i.e. naive) or he's just lying about his expectations! Me thinks he was lying, the so called journo aside there's no way he wouldn't have known his place was always in jeopardy. raki05 1 Link to comment
Stuge Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 https://twitter.com/virendersehwag/status/1495230215764647939?t=OA8YTVJi9Hxu-Bmwt9xTJg&s=19 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 First issue is all these seniors getting entitled because they dont get dropped from the squad and given extended runs even when they suck badly, kudos to Dravid for taking the first step to change this. This jouno whoever he is should be shown his place. ShoonyaSifar, Cricspin, beetle and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Adamant said: So we agree. Ganguly is the biggest fraud. Captained Indian for nearly 7 years and couldn't win **** unlike some guys who won 5 maces. Well, Ganguly did win the ICC Champions trophy in 2002 jointly with Srilanka. Anyone who remember that event would know India was at drivers seat on both days and would have won had rain not interrupted. Also, India did brilliantly under him in 2003 world cup and only lost to perhaps the greatest cricket team ever. Kohli on the other hand has captained us in 3 ICC white ball events - got embarrassed against Pak in 2017, failed to chase that easy target in 2019 semi and T20 WC 2021 was a total debacle. Winning test mace is no big deal as India plays so many home games. The only thing matters is WTC Finals and we lost it under him too. The best test wins in Australia were also under Rahane's captaincy and the match Kohli captained, team got all out for 36. Also, likes of Rohit Sharma has won Asia cups/Nidahas like tournaments. Kohli couldnt even win an asia cup for India. I like Kohli the batsman and also love the fact that he build fast bowling culture in Indian captain. But Ganguly was a way superior captain and there is no comparison. beetle, Chakdephatte, Stan AF and 6 others 1 2 6 Link to comment
Jay Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Well, Ganguly did win the ICC Champions trophy in 2002 jointly with Srilanka. Anyone who remember that event would know India was at drivers seat on both days and would have won had rain not interrupted. Also, India did brilliantly under him in 2003 world cup and only lost to perhaps the greatest cricket team ever. Kohli on the other hand has captained us in 3 ICC white ball events - got embarrassed against Pak in 2017, failed to chase that easy target in 2019 semi and T20 WC 2021 was a total debacle. Winning test mace is no big deal as India plays so many home games. The only thing matters is WTC Finals and we lost it under him too. The best test wins in Australia were also under Rahane's captaincy and the match Kohli captained, team got all out for 36. Also, likes of Rohit Sharma has won Asia cups/Nidahas like tournaments. Kohli couldnt even win an asia cup for India. I like Kohli the batsman and also love the fact that he build fast bowling culture in Indian captain. But Ganguly was a way superior captain and there is no comparison. Hit the gavel on kohlis forehead. Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Well, Ganguly did win the ICC Champions trophy in 2002 jointly with Srilanka. Anyone who remember that event would know India was at drivers seat on both days and would have won had rain not interrupted. Also, India did brilliantly under him in 2003 world cup and only lost to perhaps the greatest cricket team ever. Kohli on the other hand has captained us in 3 ICC white ball events - got embarrassed against Pak in 2017, failed to chase that easy target in 2019 semi and T20 WC 2021 was a total debacle. Winning test mace is no big deal as India plays so many home games. The only thing matters is WTC Finals and we lost it under him too. The best test wins in Australia were also under Rahane's captaincy and the match Kohli captained, team got all out for 36. Also, likes of Rohit Sharma has won Asia cups/Nidahas like tournaments. Kohli couldnt even win an asia cup for India. I like Kohli the batsman and also love the fact that he build fast bowling culture in Indian captain. But Ganguly was a way superior captain and there is no comparison. Again you can't be more wrong. Saying that winning 5 maces is a result of home track bullying is the most convenient way to get out of a discussion without providing insights. Why is Kohli’s W/L record so much better than Ganguly? Why has he won more overseas series than Ganguly? Why is he amongst the top 5 test match winning captains in history of cricket? Home bullying? Yeah Right. What stopped Mr Ganguly to achieve number one or even number two rank by bullying teams at home. Actually, its not even a debate who the better test captain is, you would string up some excuses for Ganguly for all his failures. The record is there for all to see, that's what finally matters. As for Nidahas, lol at winning against Bangladesh. I never said that Kohli was a good lpi captain, but neither was Ganguly, lol at sharing champions trophy, even Kohli would have won one if the final was abandoned. WTC is the only test that matters - Bro, please stop watching test cricket, this is one of the most uninformed opinion I have ever heard. As for Humiliations Ganguly has a fair share of those, also unlike Kohli he isn't even a great batsman. In Ganguly's era the team's biggest win was in Pakistan and sadly he wasn't a part of that, apart from that he has got nothing to show for in overseas conditions. OTOH - The GOAT has won a test series in Aus in 2018(before coming up with poor team crap, look at what Ganguly achieved when Warne, Mcgrath and Gillespie were injured in 2003). 2-1 leading in England (a draw series at the least - a win is also possible if we draw or win the next match) 2 tests win in SA- how many under Ganguly? Whitewashing SriLanka and Windies- keep in mind that West Indies was weak even when Ganguly captain but he couldn't do zilch. Then Got thumped by aussies in India. Lol at comparing him with the GOAT. Kohli the test captain stands amongst the likes of Waugh, Lloyd, Smith, Ponting, Benaud comparing these lions to a wuss like Ganguly is an insult. Neither was Ganguly a great cricketer like the above gents nor was he a great captain. Cricket analysts would laugh at you for comparing a lamb with a lion, only on ICF would you get some support from braindead zero iq people. Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Leaving this here for people who actually have a working brain. Not for those who think Pattinson > Warne. Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Never liked boria & always felt he is arrogant. Give me vikrant dot gupta seventy three over him any day who is full time social media promoter & part time journalist these days. Edited February 20, 2022 by Nikola AuxiliA 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Adamant said: Again you can't be more wrong. Saying that winning 5 maces is a result of home track bullying is the most convenient way to get out of a discussion without providing insights. Why is Kohli’s W/L record so much better than Ganguly? Why has he won more overseas series than Ganguly? Why is he amongst the top 5 test match winning captains in history of cricket? Home bullying? Yeah Right. What stopped Mr Ganguly to achieve number one or even number two rank by bullying teams at home. Actually, its not even a debate who the better test captain is, you would string up some excuses for Ganguly for all his failures. The record is there for all to see, that's what finally matters. As for Nidahas, lol at winning against Bangladesh. I never said that Kohli was a good lpi captain, but neither was Ganguly, lol at sharing champions trophy, even Kohli would have won one if the final was abandoned. WTC is the only test that matters - Bro, please stop watching test cricket, this is one of the most uninformed opinion I have ever heard. As for Humiliations Ganguly has a fair share of those, also unlike Kohli he isn't even a great batsman. In Ganguly's era the team's biggest win was in Pakistan and sadly he wasn't a part of that, apart from that he has got nothing to show for in overseas conditions. OTOH - The GOAT has won a test series in Aus in 2018(before coming up with poor team crap, look at what Ganguly achieved when Warne, Mcgrath and Gillespie were injured in 2003). 2-1 leading in England (a draw series at the least - a win is also possible if we draw or win the next match) 2 tests win in SA- how many under Ganguly? Whitewashing SriLanka and Windies- keep in mind that West Indies was weak even when Ganguly captain but he couldn't do zilch. Then Got thumped by aussies in India. Lol at comparing him with the GOAT. Kohli the test captain stands amongst the likes of Waugh, Lloyd, Smith, Ponting, Benaud comparing these lions to a wuss like Ganguly is an insult. Neither was Ganguly a great cricketer like the above gents nor was he a great captain. Cricket analysts would laugh at you for comparing a lamb with a lion, only on ICF would you get some support from braindead zero iq people. Thing is, winning test matches at home is not something that big of a deal. Every Indian captain has good record at home. Ganguly's India even beaten ATG Steve Waugh's Australia at home. Kohli's India never faced such teams at home nor teams like Wasim's 99 Pak team that Azharuddin had to face. Also, clout of BCCI means pitches will always be taken care off if required. India lost the 1st test against Eng last year and then we have to dish rank turners to salvage pride in remaining series. So I personally dont rate winning test matches at home. Now Rohit Sharma is captain and it wont change a thing..we will continue to win at home. raki05 1 Link to comment
dilliboy Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Now Saha saying he hasn't been dropped because of fitness and performance... Abey if you were performing well would Pant have replaced you as a wicket keeper at all? Of course if you aren't the first choice, what's the point of keeping you in the team at 37? Treatment by that journalist aside, he is unnecessary creating a controversy around his non selection. Pujara is a much bigger name than him, don't see him crying in the media about his non-selection. Edited February 20, 2022 by dilliboy Vk1, Lord, ShoonyaSifar and 6 others 1 3 5 Link to comment
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ShoonyaSifar Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Saha got both and has ended up shafting both his benefactors. Dravid/ Chetan Sharma were honest with him in saying they are looking beyond him, Ganguly (as per Saha) 'reassured' him. Saha blamed both within a few hours of being dropped. Says more about him than the others. He's clinging onto his 61* vs NZ questioning his omission forgetting that he was himself preferred over Pant by a biased TM in 2019. Anywhere else his career would have been done after the kind of start Pant had in tests in 2018-19. Vk1, Cricspin, Lord and 3 others 6 Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Journalists and their sense of entitlement. Boria, if you’re reading this - I was a journo in the 90s, and we were taught about the worst kinda journalist and how not to be them: entitled, arrogant, self seeking and thinking we’re better than the things we cover. You’re very close to being it. zen, Vk1, Suhaan and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Lord Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Cricspin, TheWall, raki05 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
TheWall Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So Irfan expects the coach to lie... Is it a family wedding matter???? raki05 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Lord said: RESPECT! Link to comment
Texan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 21 hours ago, nevada said: I don't understand what this is about. Did the journalist call and Saha not answer the call? If so, why is he(the journo) saying "you did not call"? Did Saha agree to call or be called but bail out? Or, was the journo pressurising Saha for an interview, got ignored and is making not so veiled threats? One can only form conclusions after hearing both sides. And that will happen only if Saha names the journalist. Link to comment
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