BCCI central contracts- Ajinkya Rahane and Cheteshwar Pujara dropped from Grade A to B , Hardik Pandya demoted from Grade A to C

[Majestic]

4 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

 

Yes.. IF they are performing... Hahane and Gujara have been downright garbage though.. on what basis they still deserve a central contract. They could have sacrificed their IPL career 5 years ago to play first class domestic cricket overseas with the BCCi compensating them handsomly resulting in them bing great test players for India... in reality they havent played Ranji trophy.. not done great in overseas first class spells.. not done anything in IPL and recently done garbage in test matches.

BCCI has prioritised test cricket and is setting it as an example.

 

The point here is if you are test sepcialist and don't get into the best XI of Test Cricket (which is hard), your earning depends all on this central contract. This will mean that it is not motivational enough for youngsters who are aspiring cricketers to prioritise tests over limited overs. They would think that if I become just a T20 sepcialist like Kishan, Samson or Harshal Patel, I will anyways be able to earn 10 crore or more even if I don't get into the first t20 XI.

 

But if I look to become a test specialist player and because the competition is stiff, if I don't get into first test XI, all my earning will be just on central contract. This is discouraging and what we will find is that we are producing only limited overs specialist and not Test cricketers. Ofcourse not all can be all format players but what BCCI is doing here with this contract is just motivating people to pursue Test Cricket. You need that, the T20 specialists will get motivated by IPL but there is no other source for Test Cricket specialists.

 

 

[Chakdephatte]

11 hours ago, sarcastic said:

Pujara does not play IPL (IIRC).

There was lot of discussion on ICF that he should be offered money because he does not play IPL and is essentially a test specialist.
How will he make any money if he is not given any central contract? If he does not have a contract and does not get picked again for test matches in this year (hardly any), he won't make any money. He is being rewarded for years of his service by BCCI. He has a wife and family to care for. This is the minimum his employer BCCI can do.

 

In case you don't know, retired national cricketers do have a pension.

Edited March 3, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[LordPrabhzy]

3 hours ago, Majestic said:

BCCI has prioritised test cricket and is setting it as an example.

 

The point here is if you are test sepcialist and don't get into the best XI of Test Cricket (which is hard), your earning depends all on this central contract. This will mean that it is not motivational enough for youngsters who are aspiring cricketers to prioritise tests over limited overs. They would think that if I become just a T20 sepcialist like Kishan, Samson or Harshal Patel, I will anyways be able to earn 10 crore or more even if I don't get into the first t20 XI.

 

But if I look to become a test specialist player and because the competition is stiff, if I don't get into first test XI, all my earning will be just on central contract. This is discouraging and what we will find is that we are producing only limited overs specialist and not Test cricketers. Ofcourse not all can be all format players but what BCCI is doing here with this contract is just motivating people to pursue Test Cricket. You need that, the T20 specialists will get motivated by IPL but there is no other source for Test Cricket specialists.

 

 

Again what you have said is a recycle of your first post- I know what you are saying.

 

my point is ‘test specialists’ have to be actually great in tests and show they have done preparations by sacrificing IPL  to play in overseas first class teams to get experience ( in theory for which BCCI Should pay on par with ipl contracts to encourage test specialists to take this route) mother bcci did that and even pujaras two mediocre spells in county didn’t improve his batting one bit- one year he was ready to play ipl even if it meant warming the bench for two months. 
 

I will reiterate- a central contract is for ‘performing ‘ players and not a pension fund. Instead of this BCCI should encourage test specialists with ipl level compensation to play in England South Africa nz first class cricket.. which they will never do..

[Stan AF]

 

An ICF Spammer now

[nevada]

4 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Again what you have said is a recycle of your first post- I know what you are saying.

 

my point is ‘test specialists’ have to be actually great in tests and show they have done preparations by sacrificing IPL  to play in overseas first class teams to get experience ( in theory for which BCCI Should pay on par with ipl contracts to encourage test specialists to take this route) mother bcci did that and even pujaras two mediocre spells in county didn’t improve his batting one bit- one year he was ready to play ipl even if it meant warming the bench for two months. 
 

I will reiterate- a central contract is for ‘performing ‘ players and not a pension fund. Instead of this BCCI should encourage test specialists with ipl level compensation to play in England South Africa nz first class cricket.. which they will never do..

Purane might not get picked again, but over the next 1 year or so, they will be in the scheme of things as contingency back up. Giving them a contract will incentivize them to not retire immediately. I feel awarding them a contract is not entirely sentimental and has a practical purpose also.

[LordPrabhzy]

12 minutes ago, nevada said:

Purane might not get picked again, but over the next 1 year or so, they will be in the scheme of things as contingency back up. Giving them a contract will incentivize them to not retire immediately. I feel awarding them a contract is not entirely sentimental and has a practical purpose also.

Well thats why they have been demoted to C grade as a minimum retainer- but they cant just do rubbish in Ranji because they know regardless how bad they do they will be a back up in the squad as opposed to batsmen who are racking up runs? is thats the right message to send?

[Rantzz]

Jadeja deserves A++ 

 

most valuable Indian cricketer across formats

[Real McCoy]

My condolences to @zen Both CDP and SDP demoted

[AuxiliA]

21 hours ago, Rantzz said:

Jadeja deserves A++ 

 

most valuable Indian cricketer across formats

 

*Second most valuable after Bumrah. Yes Jadeja deserves an A+ contract. 

[Nikola]

2 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

My condolences to @zen Both CDP and SDP demoted

 

Cannot get worse for him. SDP & CDP no where near playing for india atm & rohit is doing captaincy in all formats for india while he was asking him to drop from all formats 3 years ago.

[SRT100]

On 3/3/2022 at 4:49 AM, sarcastic said:

Pujara does not play IPL (IIRC).

There was lot of discussion on ICF that he should be offered money because he does not play IPL and is essentially a test specialist.
How will he make any money if he is not given any central contract? If he does not have a contract and does not get picked again for test matches in this year (hardly any), he won't make any money. He is being rewarded for years of his service by BCCI. He has a wife and family to care for. This is the minimum his employer BCCI can do.

You are making out as if this guy is poor or is living only an "middle class life".

 

He may not be wealthy, but he isnt poor.

 

 

[SRT100]

On 3/3/2022 at 1:34 PM, Vijy said:

too many pensioners in a nutshell.

 

I should have asked the BCCI for a contract.

 

Im an Indian in Australia and can bat and bowl at a very ordinary level. lol

[Majestic]

5 hours ago, SRT100 said:

You are making out as if this guy is poor or is living only an "middle class life".

 

He may not be wealthy, but he isnt poor.

 

 

In cricket, a lot of cheap money is getting distributed to the players. The t20 specialists keep fetching a lot of cheap money. They only play T20s, star in IPL ( might not even get to first 11 of Indian T20 XI) and manage to fetch 10-12 crore in 1.5 months season.

 

Hence, it is nothing wrong if a man with 95 tests and was getting A contract earlier is now getting B contract. I don't see any problem with that.

Edited March 5, 2022 by Majestic

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, SRT100 said:

You are making out as if this guy is poor or is living only an "middle class life".

 

He may not be wealthy, but he isnt poor.

 

 

 

He must be more than wealthy. He was making 3 to 5 crores per year for a few years

[vvvslaxman]

55 minutes ago, Majestic said:

In cricket, a lot of cheap money is getting distributed to the players. The t20 specialists keep fetching a lot of cheap money. They only play T20s, star in IPL ( might not even get to first 11 of Indian T20 XI) and manage to fetch 10-12 crore in 1.5 months season.

 

Hence, it is nothing wrong if a man with 95 tests and was getting A contract earlier is now getting B contract. I don't see any problem with that.

 

 

They can always become MLAs and make money

 

Exhibit A

 

 

Exhibit B

 

[rkt.india]

On 3/2/2022 at 11:44 PM, Texan said:

So also for Saha. When TM already told him that he has no international future, why is he still being offered a contract? 

Contracts don't work on whims and fancies. There is a criteria based on which contracts are given. If they don't play any test for the next one year, they will be out. Because they have consistently played test matches inn last one year, they couldn't have completely been removed. 

[rkt.india]

On 3/3/2022 at 6:15 AM, diga said:

Correct me if I am wrong... Indian cricket contracts are not forward looking but backward facing... meaning a player is rewarded with a contract if he was part of the team in the last 1 year. The grading depends on matches played and the format one was selected for

Exactly