Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Cricspin and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Texan Posted March 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2022 Why are Rahane and Pujara even being offered a contract? We need to start looking ahead, we have some good prospects in domestic cricket and we should look at providing those guys central contracts instead. Sandz, NameGoesHere, SRT100 and 7 others 2 8 Link to comment
Texan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 So also for Saha. When TM already told him that he has no international future, why is he still being offered a contract? anish2tweet 1 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Texan said: Why are Rahane and Pujara even being offered a contract? We need to start looking ahead, we have some good prospects in domestic cricket and we should look at providing those guys central contracts instead. Pujara does not play IPL (IIRC). There was lot of discussion on ICF that he should be offered money because he does not play IPL and is essentially a test specialist. How will he make any money if he is not given any central contract? If he does not have a contract and does not get picked again for test matches in this year (hardly any), he won't make any money. He is being rewarded for years of his service by BCCI. He has a wife and family to care for. This is the minimum his employer BCCI can do. Edited March 2, 2022 by sarcastic nevada, raki05, AuxiliA and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Texan said: So also for Saha. When TM already told him that he has no international future, why is he still being offered a contract? Same reason as Pujara. They have worked for so many years and contributed immensely towards Indian cricket. A contract offer will only enhance their morale given that they are already out of test team for this series. AuxiliA and raki05 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Texan Posted March 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, sarcastic said: Pujara does not play IPL (IIRC). There was lot of discussion on ICF that he should be offered money because he does not play IPL and is essentially a test specialist. How will he make any money if he is not given any central contract? If he does not have a contract and does not get picked again for test matches in this year (hardly any), he won't make any money. He is being rewarded for years of his service by BCCI. He has a wife and family to care for. This is the minimum his employer BCCI can do. A central contract is not a retirement plan. That is the nature of the profession they are in. Both Pujara and Rahane had extended runs in the Indian team and they made their fair share. If we need to take care of them despite not being good enough to play for India, they can be offered a pension plan. Rahane and Pujara can also try to get a place into a county team. Many South Africans make their money in this way and Pujara and Rahane could pursue that path too. There are tons of cricketers who play their hearts out in domestics, but never get a chance to play for India or a central contract or even IPL. Central contracts are strictly for players who are planned to play for India in the near future. We should not be offering them just as a "Thank you for your contributions". Vk1, LordPrabhzy, Cricspin and 7 others 2 5 3 Link to comment
Lord Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Insult to SDP sandeep, coffee_rules and raki05 3 Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Honestly given that they are no longer part of the squad in any formats, Rahane, Pujara, Ishant and Hardik all should have been given C contracts. Overall, I like the list. A+ - The top tier players only deserve that. That is Kohli, Rohit and Bumrah. A - Ashwin( well deserved, not A+ because not good enough in other formats), Jadeja( well deserved and probably closest to A+), Shami ( again well deserved), Rahul and Pant. The latter two have failed to take their game to level of Kohli, Rohit or Bumrah. Then after that you have the rest which includes likes of Siraj, Shardul, Shreyas, Axar, Washington, all these guys in reckoning across all formats. Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lord said: Insult to SDP Well deserved. AuxiliA, Norman, Clarke and 6 others 6 3 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Pandya doesn't need central contracts - IPL or Gujju Shers bank is telling jokes and he is laughing all the way to the bank, Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Kuldeep Yadav good enough to be in all three squads in the last 2 months but not good enough for a central contract? Same for Ishan Kishan, V. Iyer, Avesh, Samson, Saini. Good enough to play for India but deemed not good enough to be in top 27 cricketers in the country. Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Kuldeep Yadav good enough to be in all three squads in the last 2 months but not good enough for a central contract? Same for Ishan Kishan, V. Iyer, Avesh, Samson, Saini. Good enough to play for India but deemed not good enough to be in top 27 cricketers in the country. It is pretty clear that they have valued test cricket as higher priority than other formats and that is right too. The likes of Kishan, Samson, Avesh, V Iyer, Saini etc will anyways fetch 10 crore + from IPl, this is an advantage being a T20 specialist only. You don't have to work all that hard as you don't play other formats and earn handsome amount through franchise cricket. It is the test specialists who find it hard. Their source is through central contracts only and test cricket requires more hard work and determination than T20s. So, the test specialists deserve the central contracts more. Or else in future youngsters will think if I become a T20 specialist it is far more rewarding than being a test specialist because if you are a T20 specialist and not good enough to merit a place in the first XI, you can still earn handsome salary through IPL but if you are a test specialist and not good enough to merit a place in the first XI ( which itself is hard especially performing overseas), you will be just fetching some C grade contract and not earning anything like the T20 specialists. Example in case, Hanuma Vihari who has to perform overseas to prove its worth in Tests which is a much harder job than being a backup in T20s like a Sanju Samson who will anyways be earning a lot more through IPL but it is Vihari who is asked to do the tougher job among the three. So, rewarding test specialists more makes complete sense. raki05, SRT100, coffee_rules and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Majestic said: Honestly given that they are no longer part of the squad in any formats, Rahane, Pujara, Ishant and Hardik all should have been given C contracts. Overall, I like the list. A+ - The top tier players only deserve that. That is Kohli, Rohit and Bumrah. A - Ashwin( well deserved, not A+ because not good enough in other formats), Jadeja( well deserved and probably closest to A+), Shami ( again well deserved), Rahul and Pant. The latter two have failed to take their game to level of Kohli, Rohit or Bumrah. Then after that you have the rest which includes likes of Siraj, Shardul, Shreyas, Axar, Washington, all these guys in reckoning across all formats. What has Kohli done that is taking him beyond the latter two? His test performance is same or worse than Purane. T20 performance is not worthy and we haven't played ODIs much. He is in A+ only because he was a captain in all 3 formats till recently, but nothing to write about performances raki05, Texan, Cricspin and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I am all in favour of rewarding test regulars (even ousted ones) in Central contracts. White ball players already earn much more through IPL. Link to comment
Texan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: What has Kohli done that is taking him beyond the latter two? His test performance is same or worse than Purane. T20 performance is not worthy and we haven't played ODIs much. He is in A+ only because he was a captain in all 3 formats till recently, but nothing to write about performances Jadeja or Pant might have been more deserving since they make it to the first-choice team in all formats and have been contributing well. Cricspin, SRT100, raki05 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
The Realist Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Pujara and Rahane have been on a 3 year pension plan at least given their dismal performances on the field. It seems unlikely they will ever play again at international level so why they still get contracts (which is the whole point of these graded contracts) beggars belief. Sandz 1 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Majestic said: It is pretty clear that they have valued test cricket as higher priority than other formats and that is right too. The likes of Kishan, Samson, Avesh, V Iyer, Saini etc will anyways fetch 10 crore + from IPl, this is an advantage being a T20 specialist only. You don't have to work all that hard as you don't play other formats and earn handsome amount through franchise cricket. It is the test specialists who find it hard. Their source is through central contracts only and test cricket requires more hard work and determination than T20s. So, the test specialists deserve the central contracts more. Or else in future youngsters will think if I become a T20 specialist it is far more rewarding than being a test specialist because if you are a T20 specialist and not good enough to merit a place in the first XI, you can still earn handsome salary through IPL but if you are a test specialist and not good enough to merit a place in the first XI ( which itself is hard especially performing overseas), you will be just fetching some C grade contract and not earning anything like the T20 specialists. Example in case, Hanuma Vihari who has to perform overseas to prove its worth in Tests which is a much harder job than being a backup in T20s like a Sanju Samson who will anyways be earning a lot more through IPL but it is Vihari who is asked to do the tougher job among the three. So, rewarding test specialists more makes complete sense. Yes.. IF they are performing... Hahane and Gujara have been downright garbage though.. on what basis they still deserve a central contract. They could have sacrificed their IPL career 5 years ago to play first class domestic cricket overseas with the BCCi compensating them handsomly resulting in them bing great test players for India... in reality they havent played Ranji trophy.. not done great in overseas first class spells.. not done anything in IPL and recently done garbage in test matches. raki05 1 Link to comment
diga Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Correct me if I am wrong... Indian cricket contracts are not forward looking but backward facing... meaning a player is rewarded with a contract if he was part of the team in the last 1 year. The grading depends on matches played and the format one was selected for rkt.india and Cricspin 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Cricspin said: Surely Saha should have lost his contract. Pujara/Rahane / Ishant Sharma should have got to grade C if any. Dhawan should have lost his contract as he does not play tests and now has lost LOI spot. It's silly to worry about players like Pujara and Rahane for financial reasons. They have made enough to last them a lifetime without any work. They still can make money from coaching, commentary etc. too many pensioners in a nutshell. express bowling, Real McCoy, SRT100 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: What has Kohli done that is taking him beyond the latter two? His test performance is same or worse than Purane. T20 performance is not worthy and we haven't played ODIs much. He is in A+ only because he was a captain in all 3 formats till recently, but nothing to write about performances They are rewarding him for being the best of this generation. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
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