Bumrah ruled out of world cup : PTI

[The Realist]

Guess who is available and has influential backers...

 

[Adorable Fan]

Even with Bumrah, the chances were less due to other jokers. This is nail in coffin stuff for T20. Party time for batters , no limit to score from these trundlers.

 

Wondering which joker the selectors and brain-dead Dravid to call up as replacement. Is Vinay Kumar, the fast beast who played in Perth and swept by Warner is available for selection? 

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I am sure they touch 145 k , 

 

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What ard you talking about ?

 

Tyagi touched 150 k with lots of balls above 147 k.

 

Sen touched 149 k with lots of balls above 146 k.  He often bowled entire overs at 144 k to 146 k with regularity.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Nah they are not pace bowlers.Tyagi, Mohsin, Sen all of them are medium pace at best.  I have not seen Simarjeet.Nagarkoti had potential to be genuine pacer but is he injury free.

 

Bumrah was genuine pace bowler till 2019 his first injury.Only Umran has genuine pace but he is still very raw. Are the bowlers you have named better options than trundler brigade who have been selected  answer is yes but calling them pace bowlers is bit too much.

If Tyagi,Mohsin and Sen are medium pace then pace bowlers don't exist

Tyagi,Sen,Mohsin all have bowled in excess of 145

Test cricket is different format where very few pacers maintain their pace
Its about spells and match situation where they have to vary pace to enforce

Bowling in short spells help maintain good pace
Here we are talking about t20s and odis

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, cricketfan28 said:

another early exit , that is why we need luck Dhoni has plenty of it .

They tried Dhoni's luck as mentor in last T20 WC..that didnt help too..haha

 

they need Sonam Kapoor from that movie..where she travels with Indian team..for luck..lol

[Vk1]

our bowling attack became bowling unit and is on a downhill from the day Bharat Arun left

[Need4Speed]

32 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I am sure they touch 145 k , even Ajit Agarkar touched 145k on occasions .Did it make Agarkar express bowler? Personally I would select Moshin as injury replacement for Bumrah.

 

I might be wrong personally to me that snap has been missing from Bumrah after 2019.He is still touching speeds but he no longer is that Bumrah.

he is careful now to not hit the deck as often as earlier..else it will hit is back not deck..lol..its understandable..

feeling sad for him..but we need these kind of moments..to expose improper planning,vision and grooming of the responsible parties..

Injury is part and parcel of the game..when you get blessed with a phenomenal talent..you dont forget grooming some sort of the backups..and just live in the present only..

Edited September 29, 2022 by Need4Speed

[Need4Speed]

atleast I like what they are trying with Raj Bawa..to create some backup for Pandya..they tried..Vijay Shankar,Shivam Dube,Venky Iyer..so atleast they were trying for Pandya..

not sure why they only went for Avesh in case of Bumrah's backup of hitting the deck..

 

and please we dont want Rishi Dhawan..he has the domestic numbers but he will be useless in international level..

[the don]

5 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

This is the second time happening.  Big worry is he may not be the old  Boom again  

He most likely will lose 3-5 ks of average pace.

[Austin 3:!6]

Why did they rush him? We still have, what, 6 months left for IPL

[Majestic]

Bhak madarchod selectors!

[Need4Speed]

13 minutes ago, the don said:

He most likely will lose 3-5 ks of average pace.

more than that..he will be hesitant to hit the deck..that will affect wicket taking ability

[Need4Speed]

This world cup is not good man...no Archer,Bumrah,Shaheen..such exciting bowlers..are missing..

I hope Wood,Chameera,Lockie stay injury free too

[nitinbwj]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

I am sure they touch 145 k , even Ajit Agarkar touched 145k on occasions .Did it make Agarkar express bowler? Personally I would select Moshin as injury replacement for Bumrah.

 

I might be wrong personally to me that snap has been missing from Bumrah after 2019.He is still touching speeds but he no longer is that Bumrah.

Yes. I would play him in Tests only and that too if he gives his 100%. With his action and the devils of IPL ( 2.5 months of tamasha) we might never see the peak Bumrah again in white ball internationals

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

But are they really pace bowlers.Question is do we have any genuine pace bowlers in the system other Umran who is clearly not ready.

 

Umran has pace but isn't a "genuine bowler" just yet.  Lacks the control, or movement, or variations to be a proper top shelf international bowler.  

 

This arbitrary classifications of "genuine" pace etc are just that.  Anybody who can bowl 140+ is quick enough, provided he is a good bowler.  Problem for us is that we have guys like Chahar, Arshdeep, and 2022 version of Bhuvi - all of whom are not anywhere near 140+ on a consistent basis.  And guys who can bowl in that spectrum - Prasidh, Avesh, Umran - consistently demonstrated their inconsistency and lack of reliability in execution.  

 

My question is this - why weren't all these T20 games used to evaluate more replacements for Boomrah?  Its a glaring mistake.

[vayuu1]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

What ard you talking about ?

 

Tyagi touched 150 k with lots of balls above 147 k.

 

Sen touched 149 k with lots of balls above 146 k.  He often bowled entire overs at 144 k to 146 k with regularity.

Tyagi,sen, Mohsin umran are all out and out quick bowlers especially Tyagi and umran.

[zen]

Tuk Tuk Sharma played him unnecessarily in IPL even after MI was out of the competition  

[Lord]

He'll be fit for entire IPL

 

After every exit we pledge to  boycott IPL but it surges without providing anything to Indian cricket

[zen]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

He'll be fit for entire IPL

 

After every exit we pledge to  boycott IPL but it surges without providing anything to Indian cricket

 

IPL has its own importance (almost all international cricketers play in T20 leagues including IPL. SA players have missed national games for IPL). 

 

It is not IPL's fault. Players have their options, national sides should have theirs too including developing the talent pool. 

 

Blaming IPL is the easy way out ... Only interesting thing here is that Bumrah plays for MI, which is captained by the person captaining India, who knows a major tournament is ahead and still played Bumrah even when his team was out of the competition (would have been understandable if MI was in contention for the title) 

[sandeep]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

He'll be fit for entire IPL

 

After every exit we pledge to  boycott IPL but it surges without providing anything to Indian cricket

I don't undestand why fans are so desperate to vent their frustrations by "blaming IPL".  IPL is the reason why cricket has become a viable career option for thousands of young talents, and is the reason why we were able to find players like Ashwin, Boomrah, Pandya.  You take the good with the bad.  And fans shouldn't begrudge the players' opportunities to earn money in their short lived careers.  

 

Just because you feel entitled to bragging rights about the team's hypothetical wins, and feel like you can attribute 'missing out' on that due to IPL, doesn't change facts.