Modi sarkar economic reforms/governance performance thread

[Trichromatic]

On 11/9/2018 at 8:50 PM, sandeep said:

Hindsight is 20/20.  Why claim that IITs were at the expense of primary education?  Similar arguments are made against ISRO today as well, and the same bhakts jump in to defend that India can afford space research alongside development, and the space program has made great contributions to India.  Same can be said of the IITs as well, they have made major contributions to India. 

  

 But let's stick to the agenda of bashing and blaming Nehru for all that went wrong.  Fits a neat narrative that way, facts be damned.  

  

Nehru wasn't perfect.  He made a lot of errors and bad decisions that hurt India. But he made a lot of good ones too.  And IIT is part of the latter, not the former.

Ignoring primary education was biggest blunder and people are still paying for it.

 

After 70 years:

 

Literacy 75%

Primay 25%

Middle 16%

Matric 11%

Higher secondary 9%

Graduate 4.5%

 

Those are very poor numbers.

[Global.Baba]

One small setback for BJP is TDP has fielded granddaughter of NTR in one of the areas which could have been a sure shot win for them.

 

This is the reason TRS will still win easily. 

 

All the other 2nd,3rd,4th and AIMIM will eat into each other’s votes.

[sandeep]

On 12/2/2018 at 2:08 AM, Trichromatic said:

Ignoring primary education was biggest blunder and people are still paying for it.

 

After 70 years:

 

Literacy 75%

Primay 25%

Middle 16%

Matric 11%

Higher secondary 9%

Graduate 4.5%

 

Those are very poor numbers.

Again, I don't disagree that failing to prioritize primary education was a big blunder.  100% agree.  But to blame creation of IIT for that is silly.  Its like saying India is choosing to starve millions of kids and spending money on ISRO.  It doesn't work like that. 

 

And on Nehru, a lot of the rabid Sanghis like to blackwash history with propaganda, as if if not for Nehru, India magically would have developed better economically.  A more market-oriented economic approach could have delivered better growth, but we could have made a bunch of other mistakes as well.  Bit of nuance, context and objectivity is a pre-requisite when talking about history.  

[Global.Baba]

On 12/2/2018 at 2:09 AM, Global.Baba said:

One small setback for BJP is TDP has fielded granddaughter of NTR in one of the areas which could have been a sure shot win for them.

 

This is the reason TRS will still win easily. 

 

All the other 2nd,3rd,4th and AIMIM will eat into each other’s votes.

Damn forgot the Maha Kootami with all the opportunists  coming together and AIMIM joining forces with TRS

 

 

Edited December 9, 2018 by Global.Baba

[Global.Baba]

TRS is the better evil though compared to Maha Kootami even though BJP will make some impact this time without allies.

Edited December 9, 2018 by Global.Baba

[gattaca]

On 12/2/2018 at 12:39 PM, Global.Baba said:

One small setback for BJP is TDP has fielded granddaughter of NTR in one of the areas which could have been a sure shot win for them.

 

This is the reason TRS will still win easily. 

 

All the other 2nd,3rd,4th and AIMIM will eat into each other’s votes.

Are you talking about suhasini ? She lost by almost 50k votes. She couldn't even frame two sentences properly in telugu. 

[Global.Baba]

6 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Are you talking about suhasini ? She lost by almost 50k votes. She couldn't even frame two sentences properly in telugu. 

Yeah, after the original hype I saw her talking.she has no clue. Also  the people around  KPHB are mostly middle to upper- middle class educated people so they saw  that she was just another useless dynast. She could have worked in a more poorer neighborhood where she can use NTR’s name. 

 

 I saw some YouTube videos of some locals calling bs on her nomination from that area.

 

Revanth Reddy losing was the biggest shock though.

[velu]

16 minutes ago, KellyBurge said:

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@Cricketics  are you the owner of these bitcoin fan bots ?  

[Cricketics]

26 minutes ago, velu said:

 

@Cricketics  are you the owner of these bitcoin fan bots ?  

Lol man, the rising will happen soon. These bots are crazy.

 

Btw, whoever said they are trading in USA. Make sure to file taxes if you withdrawn any money from exchange to your bank account. The moment you did that, you habe to shownit to the IRS, otherwise IRS are going to fk you up.

 

 

[velu]

4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Lol man, the rising will happen soon. These bots are crazy.

 

Btw, whoever said they are trading in USA. Make sure to file taxes if you withdrawn any money from exchange to your bank account. The moment you did that, you habe to shownit to the IRS, otherwise IRS are going to fk you up.

 

 

 

my brother bought bought and bought .. but never sold

i was asking him to sell from 10k to 15k , but stoped when it kept climbing up .. now i am right , but mixed feelings for him though 

[Cricketics]

21 minutes ago, velu said:

 

my brother bought bought and bought .. but never sold

i was asking him to sell from 10k to 15k , but stoped when it kept climbing up .. now i am right , but mixed feelings for him though 

Don’t worry. I am in the same boat as your brother. We will rise. 

[velu]

Just now, Cricketics said:

Don’t worry. I am in the same boat as your brother. We will rise. 

 

zero or jackpot .. nothing in between  

[Tibarn]

On 11/20/2018 at 4:54 PM, Tibarn said:

 

In fact Nehru should be summarily decried as a criminal as supported by the research below, from Swaminathan Aiyar of the CATO Institute:

The Human Cost of Delayed Economic Reform in India

Once again, there was evidence presented from an academic/professional research paper, quoted above, which shows that an additional 261 million Indians are illiterate because of the disastrous educational policies implemented by Nehru. 

 

Here is another research paper and an excerpt from a book which confirm that Nehru ignored primary education

Education and the Asian Surge A Comparison of the Education Systems in India and China Charles A. Goldman, Krishna B. Kumar, Ying Liu

Rand Institute 

 

 

Here is some evidence that India neglected primary education, from one Prasenjit Basu, an economic analyst and amateur historian from his book Asia Reborn

 

In summation, here is some evidence of neglect of investment in primary education and for 261 million additional illiterates in India due to his policies.

 

Whoever reads this can make up their own minds one way or another...

Edited February 3, 2019 by Tibarn

[coffee_rules]

Even Shekar Gupta is praising Modi Govt Budget

 

 

 

[Moochad]

Pappu is being advised on his economic policy by Thomas Piketty

 

He is known as 'Mark Lite'  according to Kanchan Da, he met the Modi govt and advocated a 60-65% tax rate

 

 

What did India do to deserve Congress?

[Tibarn]

@Moochad

 

That's actually an improvement for Piddi-team

 

 Piddi's idea of success under dear Indira Mata, negligible growth rate, tax anyone who makes a decent income around 90%, and then pay court "historians" to glorify you ad infinitum.  But but but "Green Revolution"

 

All ambition should be killed, everyone should wallow in the mediocrity as ordained by our povertarian piddis. 

 

Then again, Prophet Nehru, our Lord and Savior said:

 

 

Differences in Economic Policy

Nehru and Patel’s economic views differed drastically. Nehru envisioned a socialist India with the ‘elimination of profit in society…With social service and cooperation taking place of competition’[15]. 

 

 

Muh visionary, muh intellectual 

 

 

[Moochad]

23 hours ago, Tibarn said:

@Moochad

 

That's actually an improvement for Piddi-team

 

 Piddi's idea of success under dear Indira Mata, negligible growth rate, tax anyone who makes a decent income around 90%, and then pay court "historians" to glorify you ad infinitum.  But but but "Green Revolution"

 

All ambition should be killed, everyone should wallow in the mediocrity as ordained by our povertarian piddis. 

 

Then again, Prophet Nehru, our Lord and Savior said:

 

 

Differences in Economic Policy

Nehru and Patel’s economic views differed drastically. Nehru envisioned a socialist India with the ‘elimination of profit in society…With social service and cooperation taking place of competition’[15]. 

 

 

Muh visionary, muh intellectual 

 

 

Sometimes I wonder what goes on in people's heads? 

 

Why exactly do people do business or work if not to profit? To throw money and placate that ignoramus's huge ego?

 

It's a shame we still can't escape from the clutches of this bizarre system he enforced upon us. 

[Mariyam]

@Tibarn

 

In your informative post about taxation in 1971-1972, you've left out indirect taxes of that era.

 

High import/custom duties and licence raj become a protective wall incentivizing low production, obsolete technology and ensured that we were a materially starved society.

Edited February 10, 2019 by Mariyam

[Tibarn]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

@Tibarn

 

In your informative post about taxation in 1971-1972, you've left out indirect taxes of that era.

 

High import/custom duties and licence raj become a protective wall incentivizing low production, obsolete technology and ensured that we were a materially starved society.

I know what you mean for stories from my Dada. According to them, they had to wait 2+ months just to buy a scooter, and they had to travel all the way to Amdavad to get it too... Apparently, because the wait was so long, and the scooters were so expensive, many people who got their scooters early ended up price gouging 2-3X and selling them.  

Edited February 10, 2019 by Tibarn

[mishra]

@"Those in India"

Do you still see public defecation or has there been significant reduction in last 5 years? If yes? IMO that can be considered one of the biggest achievement by Modi Government.