Forever Indian Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Dhoni is still a Gun player in ODIs. I just hope he relieves himself from captaincy after the Champions Trophy. I don't see him lasting till 2019 WC though and I don't want him captaining the team as well as playing for his place in the side at that time. Just get rid of the Captaincy and play freely and I am sure he can be a major part of India's plans in the World Cup.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Forever Indian said: Dhoni is still a Gun player in ODIs. I just hope he relieves himself from captaincy after the Champions Trophy. I don't see him lasting till 2019 WC though and I don't want him captaining the team as well as playing for his place in the side at that time. Just get rid of the Captaincy and play freely and I am sure he can be a major part of India's plans in the World Cup. We have been saying this he should have left captaincy post 2015 and enjoyed his captaincy. Now if he leaves in 2017 that leaves the next captain 1.5-2 yrs only to make a team acc to him which i feel is not fair to the next one. Someone needs to tell dhoni that play freely and other batsman also needs to assure him that in case u fall we will fight, wont entirely blame him going in this mindset as after kohli he is the only one who tries to control the innings. But when things are not going ur way all this effort would look foolish and wud start to take its tole mentally
Forever Indian Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We have been saying this he should have left captaincy post 2015 and enjoyed his captaincy. Now if he leaves in 2017 that leaves the next captain 1.5-2 yrs only to make a team acc to him which i feel is not fair to the next one. Someone needs to tell dhoni that play freely and other batsman also needs to assure him that in case u fall we will fight, wont entirely blame him going in this mindset as after kohli he is the only one who tries to control the innings. But when things are not going ur way all this effort would look foolish and wud start to take its tole mentally I think 1.5 to 2 years is still enough if Kohli is made the Captain as he is already the Test captain. So the transition will be quite smooth unlike a new captain who will have to establish credibility, rapport, etc. Also the core of the team will not change much, so Kohli doesn't have to build a team from scratch. express bowling and New guy 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: I think 1.5 to 2 years is still enough if Kohli is made the Captain as he is already the Test captain. So the transition will be quite smooth unlike a new captain who will have to establish credibility, rapport, etc. Also the core of the team will not change much, so Kohli doesn't have to build a team from scratch. It would sound like but generally isnt the case. BEcoz next captain needs to see some failure in his plans to work on them to. Dravid started well but when his plans stopped working he had no time to fix it and then 2007 team was mess of plan. Even though m pretty sure if we loose CT2017 and most imp if dhoni form isnt good that wud be his last series as captain, but just feel wont be fair to next captain. Specially with indian emotional public who wud expect next one to win WC as dhoni has done. There would be huge pressure. This should have been done Post Ind-bang series, if we loose this series that wud be a catch 22 situation. Right now kumble needs to take over the dressing room and help dhoni free his mind and same with kohli on field. He is a terrific odi player and his worst is still better than most. There is no technical issue and not even fitness its all in his mind, he is playing half hearted shots. He shud push himself up and pandey at 5 as dhoni mental ability to shift gears is in doubt. With tail u always shud b up to shift gears.
New guy Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) On 10/21/2016 at 5:34 AM, 0zero said: relax people...all will be well soon...Dhoni is a gun player in ODIs...he will rise and shut the haters soon... Yes because people just like to hate players I will again call out the hypocrisy of Dhoni fans here When senior legends like Sachin, Laxman, Dravid were retired - Dhoni forced them to retire, what a legend!. Not to forget guns like Gambhir. Sehwag. All of them were also gun players/legends When Dhoni is out of form and people criticize him - they are all haters Dhoni chamchas are the worst hypocrites. Edited October 22, 2016 by New guy
SLICKR392 Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 8:43 PM, gakgupta said: What was he doing today?.... pushing, probing... He is not even a shadow of himself who was once an all time great ODI batsman... So sad but this may be the end of an illustrious career who has redefined the ODI chasing... Some say Bevan was best ODI BATSMAN but I differ with that..as I truly believe DHONI is the best.... Time to hang up his boots before he makes kapil Dev of himself Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk What do you want him to do? Go berserk on a situation like 5/6 down at that stage? Anyone else would have done the same. It's the top order that's to blame Lord and sscomp32 2
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, SLICKR392 said: What do you want him to do? Go berserk on a situation like 5/6 down at that stage? Anyone else would have done the same. It's the top order that's to blame yes, you cannot go berserk but at least score at a decent rate. Pitch wasnt a minefield. Jadhav played along with him too, scored more runs than him at a higher strike rate. SR of 60 is just not good enough these days. tweaker, Mosher and SLICKR392 3
Crookbond Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 5:18 PM, G_B_ said: hmm i think this is a knee jerk. Played as per situation. Even now RR is well within control. Its just we have lost wickets. I feel MSD of old would have seen this match through. So he is clearly not at his peak. But IMO deserves this spot in the team For any other game, I could understood but the dismissal in the 2nd ODI was a bit of a freak one. 58 minutes ago, rkt.india said: yes, you cannot go berserk but at least score at a decent rate. Pitch wasnt a minefield. Jadhav played along with him too, scored more runs than him at a higher strike rate. SR of 60 is just not good enough these days. Rohit Sharma and Ajinkya Rahane also played at SR of 60. tweaker 1
tweaker Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 Dhoni should play at no 4 so that he can play with both Kohli at no 3 & Pandey,Jadhav & Pandya. He can be the anchor around this stroke players FischerTal 1
FischerTal Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) dhoni is no longer a finisher. he can still play role of an accumulator, basically an ideal #4. however, he will have to give up wicketkeeping to do this, so not sure if its possible. it makes sense though because you can't expect a 39 year old dhoni to be WK in the 2019 World Cup. you have to start grooming somebody by next year. Edited October 22, 2016 by FischerTal Mosher and tweaker 2
gakgupta Posted October 23, 2016 Author Posted October 23, 2016 What do you want him to do? Go berserk on a situation like 5/6 down at that stage? Anyone else would have done the same. It's the top order that's to blame Well...I think he should have defended...but the way he did was lousy and looked he might get out any moment..... Earlier, he would have done the same but with lot more confidence....but now he seems to lost his reflexes....so he looked sratchy... I simple words, I could not see that personality anymore.... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
velu Posted October 23, 2016 Posted October 23, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 10:29 AM, New guy said: Yes because people just like to hate players I will again call out the hypocrisy of Dhoni fans here When senior legends like Sachin, Laxman, Dravid were retired - Dhoni forced them to retire, what a legend!. Not to forget guns like Gambhir. Sehwag. All of them were also gun players/legends When Dhoni is out of form and people criticize him - they are all haters Dhoni chamchas are the worst hypocrites. dude .. whole world knew about the worst lovers and worst hypocrites , you just need to calm down for a change you are defending sachin fans instead of sachin these days
maniac Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 11 of 31 balls I mean cmon.....losing hitting ability is one thing...this is too much Mosher, Lannister and express bowling 3
velu Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, maniac said: 11 of 31 balls I mean cmon.....losing hitting ability is one thing...this is too much looks like we decided to lose the game for commercial reasons Rasgulla and maniac 2
tweaker Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 Chance for Pandya to show his batting skills express bowling and velu 2
Texy Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 And ppl are still convinced that he can stay til 2019 Mosher 1
asterix Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 Maybe Kohli was jealous of the Hummer and Jharkhandi royal lifestyle. He didn't tried to win this match. After all the Team depends on him...
Gambit Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 Quite surprising Dhoni's 2 lawyers haven't turned up on this thread yet to defend him. Must be cleaning his hummer. maniac, asterix, Lannister and 2 others 5
velu Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 55 minutes ago, Gambit said: Quite surprising Dhoni's 2 lawyers haven't turned up on this thread yet to defend him. Must be cleaning his hummer. who are they ?
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