Popular Post Gollum Posted November 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Even Undertaker has 2 losses at Wrestlemania, Nadal has 2 at Philippe Chatrier One of the GOAT home sides across all team sports. Last 7 years Homeless country 1 loss and 5 draws in 7 years !!!! Shouldn't even have been 5 draws tbh Eng and Aus got legit draws at Rajkot and Ranchi respectively, fully deserved. 2015 Chinnaswamy RSA were going to get steamrolled, day 1 RSA 214 ao and we were 80/0 in 22 overs, next 4 days rain...BCCI scheduling 2017 Kolkata test against Lanka where we were 3 wickets away from victory, Less than 3 days action because of rain. 2017 Delhi smog test, again stupid BCCI scheduling because of which we lost momentum as well as time (roughly 40 overs). This is insane domination !!!!! Should be #1 till end of 2020 irrespective of what other teams do. Another year of VK with the mace, 4th consecutive year...should have been 5 but Pakistan got lucky, rain screwed us in WI 2016. . The summary of teams that have held the highest rating from June 2003 (when rankings were introduced) to the present by whole month periods are: Team Total Months Highest Rating Australia 83 143 India 59 130 South Africa 42 135 England 12 125 Pakistan 2 111 Edited November 25, 2019 by Gollum maniac, Mosher, velu and 7 others 1 1 2 6 Link to comment
gattaca Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Kohli understands the team composition necessary to win tests. But overseas his team composition is found wanting in South Africa and England Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Pratik77 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 59 minutes ago, Gollum said: Even Undertaker has 2 losses at Wrestlemania, Nadal has 2 at Philippe Chatrier One of the GOAT home sides across all team sports. Last 7 years Homeless country 1 loss and 5 draws in 7 years !!!! Shouldn't even have been 5 draws tbh Eng and Aus got legit draws at Rajkot and Ranchi respectively, fully deserved. 2015 Chinnaswamy RSA were going to get steamrolled, day 1 RSA 214 ao and we were 80/0 in 22 overs, next 4 days rain...BCCI scheduling 2017 Kolkata test against Lanka where we were 3 wickets away from victory, Less than 3 days action because of rain. 2017 Delhi smog test, again stupid BCCI scheduling because of which we lost momentum as well as time (roughly 40 overs). This is insane domination !!!!! Should be #1 till end of 2020 irrespective of what other teams do. Another year of VK with the mace, 4th consecutive year...should have been 5 but Pakistan got lucky, rain screwed us in WI 2016. . The summary of teams that have held the highest rating from June 2003 (when rankings were introduced) to the present by whole month periods are: Team Total Months Highest Rating Australia 83 143 India 59 130 South Africa 42 135 England 12 125 Pakistan 2 111 If not for rain rain Wi padosis wouldn't have enjoyed those 2 months at top spot ...something to cheer about Gollum 1 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Even Undertaker has 2 losses at Wrestlemania, Nadal has 2 at Philippe Chatrier One of the GOAT home sides across all team sports. Last 7 years Apart from India's obvious and known dominance, what sticks out in the above stats is how many tests England get to play at home relative to the other teams.... 48 for Eng vs ( 34 for India and Aus)... More than 40 % more Home Test matches for Eng. Imagine if we played as many home test matches ...where our overall W/L record would have reached in the last 3 decades. And the blame can easily be put on BCCI..instead of an additional ODI series or T20 circus, we could play 2-3 more home test matches every season. Edited November 25, 2019 by rangeelaraja nevada 1 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 What the above stat also shows is the NZ is almost as formidable in their home grounds as Australia..... Their innings thrashing of Eng reinstates that . All this hulaboo about our recent fast bowlers performance would come to a nought if cant beat NZ in NZ in the test series. But i expect our fast bowlers to come to the party...and the batsmen to fail us collectively...as usual. nevada, putrevus, sergio04 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Apart from India's obvious and known dominance, what sticks out in the above stats is how many tests England get to play at home relative to the other teams.... 48 for Eng vs ( 34 for India and Aus)... More than 40 % more Home Test matches for Eng. Imagine if we played as many home test matches ...where our overall W/L record would have reached in the last 3 decades. And the blame can easily be put on BCCI..instead of an additional ODI series or T20 circus, we could play 2-3 more home test matches every season. Yeah Eng play min 7 tests every summer, part of contract with Sky. Here we won't play a single home test till Feb 2021, BCCI . English fans are proper test fanatics, they don't care about white ball cricket unlike our lot. Remember how their home CWC campaign was playing second fiddle to their women's football side (aka Lionesses ) playing the WC in France, where they ultimately finished 4th. Aus will play 4 more home tests this summer, then more in 2020...so while we will be stuck at 34 they will be at 44-45 and England at 56 !!!! When we look at the table next year, Eng, Aus, NZ, RSA, WI, SL would have played more home tests since 2013. First 2 expected, other 4 shocking !!!!! Shame on the BCCI pigs who never look past $$$. Shame on Indian fans who say we are playing too many home tests, double thappad to those who spout lies about us playing more at home. Great disservice to our phenomenal team. Edited November 25, 2019 by Gollum rangeelaraja, Amit228, AuxiliA and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 England and Australia have also played the most tests in history right?. like 800/700 something. Actually with 3 formats it is difficult to schedule more tests. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Relentless bowling attack. Now all shami, umesh, ashwin, jadeja are avg under 25 in home condition Till the time shami, umesh , ashwin, jadeja are playing together teams wont even come close to beating us in series at max will afford to win one game here n there mostly incase we are batting 4th Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 New guy and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Relentless bowling attack. Now all shami, umesh, ashwin, jadeja are avg under 25 in home condition Till the time shami, umesh , ashwin, jadeja are playing together teams wont even come close to beating us in series at max will afford to win one game here n there mostly incase we are batting 4th 2017 Aus came close, credit to them esp Smith. BUT Kohli went missing whole series, got injured and missed the decider. 40 runs in 3 tests, will probably never happen again. Boys were damn tired after the WI, NZ, Eng and BD tests....16 tests in 7-8 months is too much for our side which isn't used to such workload !!! Half the team was injured. Shami didn't play. Vijay, Ashwin, Jadeja, KLR, Lambu and a few others (don't remember) were carrying injuries...I think many missed the IPL after that series. We played the likes of Mukund and Bhuvi who otherwise won't come close to representing our 1st XI. Lost 3 tosses. Dharamsala pitch suited to Aussie style of cricket. Super motivated Aussie team, well rested. Many marginal calls against us, DRS help controversy in 1st 2 tests. Considering all this we did well to win. Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong and we still overcame our biggest adversary. Taking nothing away from the Aussies but if they couldn't finish us in 2017 when we were at our most vulnerable I don't think we will lose any time soon. Only concern for me is NZ esp because it is easier to fluke in 2 test series. BCCI should play 3 tests and above against SENA teams IMO. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gollum said: 2017 Aus came close, credit to them esp Smith. Shami didnt play that series and on avgs he is the best indian bowler in our condition As i said till all of them are together ....Ishant is kind of a weak link when it doesnt move much unlike pink ball. Ishant in 2019 is much better then 2017 actually we were gunning for his head then. Some team will come n play spinners well but if pacers are hunting equally it leaves no breathing space. Like a chakarvuyh that u cant get out unless their is a weaker link Team will come close or even beat us only if our pacers are weak but if all 4 are bowling as main weapon i dnt see anyone beating us . Even when the mighty aussies were beaten it was an injury or form issue for one of the 4 bowlers Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: What the above stat also shows is the NZ is almost as formidable in their home grounds as Australia..... Their innings thrashing of Eng reinstates that . All this hulaboo about our recent fast bowlers performance would come to a nought if cant beat NZ in NZ in the test series. But i expect our fast bowlers to come to the party...and the batsmen to fail us collectively...as usual. Spot on ,they need to beat NZ in NZ or else all this talk of Kohli's team being great is just talk.NZ's record is also wow worthy. Aussies inspite of having some weak teams due to ban still have a great home record. Edited November 25, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
neel roy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 India should have won in Ranchi against Australia. The wicket played real slow on day 5 and there were some marginal lbw calls. We should have won the test and won 3-1. The Pune test, stupid BCCI produced a rank turner and we got screwed. We also dropped Smith.. saying that of all marvellous innings smith has played in my opinion that will be his best ever.. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) On 11/25/2019 at 11:40 AM, Gollum said: 2017 Aus came close, credit to them esp Smith. BUT Kohli went missing whole series, got injured and missed the decider. 40 runs in 3 tests, will probably never happen again. Boys were damn tired after the WI, NZ, Eng and BD tests....16 tests in 7-8 months is too much for our side which isn't used to such workload !!! Half the team was injured. Shami didn't play. Vijay, Ashwin, Jadeja, KLR, Lambu and a few others (don't remember) were carrying injuries...I think many missed the IPL after that series. We played the likes of Mukund and Bhuvi who otherwise won't come close to representing our 1st XI. Lost 3 tosses. Dharamsala pitch suited to Aussie style of cricket. Super motivated Aussie team, well rested. Many marginal calls against us, DRS help controversy in 1st 2 tests. Considering all this we did well to win. Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong and we still overcame our biggest adversary. Taking nothing away from the Aussies but if they couldn't finish us in 2017 when we were at our most vulnerable I don't think we will lose any time soon. Only concern for me is NZ esp because it is easier to fluke in 2 test series. BCCI should play 3 tests and above against SENA teams IMO. 2017, not because Smith but because our poor catching where we dropped Smith half a dozen times through his 100. Still they were no where close to win the series. Edited November 26, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: 2017, not because Smith but because our poor catching where we dropped Smith half a dozen times through his 100. Still they were no where close to win the series. Drop catches part and parcel of the game, remember Kohli in England last year? Besides this team is known for its awful catching. They had all of us worried a few times, for most of the duration of Bengaluru test they were ahead and close to 2-0 lead, again after 1st session Dharamsala. Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Can a visiting team beat any version of India in India after losing the toss and missing 3 key players? After this match have to appreciate our home dominance even more, 1 loss and 2 legit draws in 8 years!!!! Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) I always wanted India to be like Nadal of the cricket world,. Now Nadal isn't everyone's cup of tea because of the clay skew but he is set to be the GS record holder ahead of 2 ATG beasts in Federer/Djokovic, that's all that matters. First become invincible at home and expand from there. Edited December 29, 2020 by Gollum Link to comment
neel roy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) On 11/25/2019 at 3:04 AM, Gollum said: Even Undertaker has 2 losses at Wrestlemania, Nadal has 2 at Philippe Chatrier One of the GOAT home sides across all team sports. Last 7 years Homeless country 1 loss and 5 draws in 7 years !!!! Shouldn't even have been 5 draws tbh Eng and Aus got legit draws at Rajkot and Ranchi respectively, fully deserved. 2015 Chinnaswamy RSA were going to get steamrolled, day 1 RSA 214 ao and we were 80/0 in 22 overs, next 4 days rain...BCCI scheduling 2017 Kolkata test against Lanka where we were 3 wickets away from victory, Less than 3 days action because of rain. 2017 Delhi smog test, again stupid BCCI scheduling because of which we lost momentum as well as time (roughly 40 overs). This is insane domination !!!!! Should be #1 till end of 2020 irrespective of what other teams do. Another year of VK with the mace, 4th consecutive year...should have been 5 but Pakistan got lucky, rain screwed us in WI 2016. . The summary of teams that have held the highest rating from June 2003 (when rankings were introduced) to the present by whole month periods are: Team Total Months Highest Rating Australia 83 143 India 59 130 South Africa 42 135 England 12 125 Pakistan 2 111 Ranchi we should have won. I still shake my head in disbelief when I think about how we couldnt get 8 wickets in the last day of a test in Ranchi. Delhi smog also we should have won. Roshen Silva played the innings of his life on last day. We had 7 wickets to take. Where the hell Is he now!! Only legitimate draw was Rajkot. The rest 2 were lucky weather draws. Legitimate in the sense that we had a 50 perc chance of losing in Rajkot it till Kohli Jaddu steadied the ship and England declared late. In none of the other we had any risk of losing. Oh and the 4 losses which Aus had at home 3 were against India.. Edited December 29, 2020 by neel roy Link to comment
Tibarn Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) But but but... wEE aLwAYz wErE dOmInaNT iN HoMe gAmEZ Edited December 30, 2020 by Tibarn Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Gollum said: Can a visiting team beat any version of India in India after losing the toss and missing 3 key players? After this match have to appreciate our home dominance even more, 1 loss and 2 legit draws in 8 years!!!! I can think of that one team, surely you remember them right Link to comment
raki05 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 11/25/2019 at 8:34 AM, Gollum said: Even Undertaker has 2 losses at Wrestlemania, Nadal has 2 at Philippe Chatrier One of the GOAT home sides across all team sports. Last 7 years Homeless country 1 loss and 5 draws in 7 years !!!! Shouldn't even have been 5 draws tbh Eng and Aus got legit draws at Rajkot and Ranchi respectively, fully deserved. 2015 Chinnaswamy RSA were going to get steamrolled, day 1 RSA 214 ao and we were 80/0 in 22 overs, next 4 days rain...BCCI scheduling 2017 Kolkata test against Lanka where we were 3 wickets away from victory, Less than 3 days action because of rain. 2017 Delhi smog test, again stupid BCCI scheduling because of which we lost momentum as well as time (roughly 40 overs). This is insane domination !!!!! Should be #1 till end of 2020 irrespective of what other teams do. Another year of VK with the mace, 4th consecutive year...should have been 5 but Pakistan got lucky, rain screwed us in WI 2016. . The summary of teams that have held the highest rating from June 2003 (when rankings were introduced) to the present by whole month periods are: Team Total Months Highest Rating Australia 83 143 India 59 130 South Africa 42 135 England 12 125 Pakistan 2 111 Poyz 2 months . So much for the GOAT captain. express bowling and Gollum 2 Link to comment
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