Looks like Pant doesn’t have the match awareness to play LOIs

[ShoonyaSifar]

Pant will have a far longer career than Hetmyer. Their FC records tell you everything you want to know. Pant has a 300 in FC cricket and has shown in Tests he can play according to situation.

[SK_IH]

6 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Pant will have a far longer career than Hetmyer. Their FC records tell you everything you want to know. Pant has a 300 in FC cricket and has shown in Tests he can play according to situation.

specfically talking about LOIs

[velu]

24 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Having watched both Pant and Hetmyer recently, I have to say I was wrong regarding both being similar. Pant may have potential but Hetmyer looks far more explosive at the moment.

hetmeyer will be a T20 club legend 

[SK_IH]

9 minutes ago, velu said:

hetmeyer will be a T20 club legend 

no one gives a fcuk about T20 clubs 

[velu]

Just now, SK_IH said:

no one gives a fcuk about T20 clubs 

 

you might be in lala land

even players don’t give a fcuk about international games esp wi ones 

[ShoonyaSifar]

17 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

specfically talking about LOIs

Hetmyer is great at hitting 4s and 6s (like many Windies new generation players) but Pant will gradually get better at constructing LOI innings to have a better career.

[gakgupta]

19 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Hetmyer is great at hitting 4s and 6s (like many Windies new generation players) but Pant will gradually get better at constructing LOI innings to have a better career.

I think Hetmyer has a higher ceiling as a batsmen as compared to Pant. But you dont know what would happen to WI cricketers....

[SK_IH]

25 minutes ago, velu said:

 

you might be in lala land

even players don’t give a fcuk about international games esp wi ones 

Being a club T20 legend means nothing in context of what i was talking about

[SK_IH]

26 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Hetmyer is great at hitting 4s and 6s (like many Windies new generation players) but Pant will gradually get better at constructing LOI innings to have a better career.

I thought same about Pant.

[velu]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Being a club T20 legend means nothing in context of what i was talking about

 

you are old school then  

[Adi BB]

Pant should be dropped with immediate effect and shouldn't be picked for again till he learns to develop match awareness.... oh wait ,for that you have to play more matches right ?

[prudent_kreeda]

1 hour ago, Adi BB said:

Pant should be dropped with immediate effect and shouldn't be picked for again till he learns to develop match awareness.... oh wait ,for that you have to play more matches right ?

    Good one ! . Thats the way the mob gets after anyone after 1 -2 matches    

[flamy]

Pant has just one shot - the hoick over to cowcorner. When the ball is in that particular slot, he connects, otherwise it is a bunch of swipes. He just looks very jittery. It was the same in Tests too. Only thing was after swiping and missing a few, he calms down, and then suddenly finds his head after which he plays well

 

This is purely a mental thing, and hope to see him improve on this with game time.

[cowboysfan]

He plays like a me in the park,no timing or placement but hit the ball as hard as possible.

[velu]

17 minutes ago, flamy said:

Pant has just one shot - the hoick over to cowcorner. When the ball is in that particular slot, he connects, otherwise it is a bunch of swipes. He just looks very jittery. It was the same in Tests too. Only thing was after swiping and missing a few, he calms down, and then suddenly finds his head after which he plays well

 

This is purely a mental thing, and hope to see him improve on this with game time.

 

he gets bored with too many failed swipes and decides not to swipe

 

[maniac]

Not convincing yet but got through the innings and for ffs all he had to do was remain not out and the Dhoni hype wagon is on full throttle that how he calmed him down and trained him on the job  

[SK_IH]

2 hours ago, flamy said:

Pant has just one shot - the hoick over to cowcorner. When the ball is in that particular slot, he connects, otherwise it is a bunch of swipes. He just looks very jittery. It was the same in Tests too. Only thing was after swiping and missing a few, he calms down, and then suddenly finds his head after which he plays well

 

This is purely a mental thing, and hope to see him improve on this with game time.

Exactly why I made that comparison with Hetmyer.Pant's hitting range is very limited as of now in comparison to someone like Hetmyer. Also I have no problem with his reverse sweeps and scoops however it seems he tries those shots just for the sake of it and has no control over them.He misses more than he connects.

 

I am yet to see him explode in LOIs but I would venture to say Kishan has better range of strokes than Pant but Pant's temperament is better.

[vvvslaxman]

@beetle  This guy is  having a lot of balance issues lol  He can't play a shot without losing the balance. Hence he mistimes more than he times. In Tests there is not requirement to slog. So he gets into good position and plays the shot. I guess he just has to do the same here.

Edited February 8, 2019 by vvvslaxman

[bowl_out]

3 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Exactly why I made that comparison with Hetmyer.Pant's hitting range is very limited as of now in comparison to someone like Hetmyer. Also I have no problem with his reverse sweeps and scoops however it seems he tries those shots just for the sake of it and has no control over them.He misses more than he connects.

 

I am yet to see him explode in LOIs but I would venture to say Kishan has better range of strokes than Pant but Pant's temperament is better.

Agree with everything except the last line... how is Pant's temperament better, when that is one of his biggest issues to solve..

Sure has the power and talent, but needs to have a more calm head than try to swipe everything for six..

 

Kishan sure looks a promising talent and should be brought into the ODI/T20 fray just after the WC.. Play both Pant and Kishan and let time tell who is better for the limited overs format. For Tests, Pant has clearly sealed his place as the first choice.

[Turning_track]

4 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Exactly why I made that comparison with Hetmyer.Pant's hitting range is very limited as of now in comparison to someone like Hetmyer. Also I have no problem with his reverse sweeps and scoops however it seems he tries those shots just for the sake of it and has no control over them.He misses more than he connects.

He often commits way too early (in LOIs) & his balance is compromised while trying to play some of the shots, like when he wasn't in a position to play the shot then it went in the air & luckily Taylor missed the catch. During the net session before 1st t20, he was practicing reverse scoop against Pandya & missing it. But still he tried those shots in both these matches. 
Frankly he should curb his crazy instinct for a while at the start of his innings, otherwise he's really good. With more match experience he will improve & build the innings more responsibly.