SecondSlip Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 Does Pandya really need to be in the team for our spin twins to play together? Hardik himself rarely every completes his 10 overs quota and most likely will bowl even less now after having back surgery! I know Jadeja has done nothing wrong in the opportunities he’s got but his bowling is far inferior than Kuldeep’s. We are missing our wicket taking spin twins in the middle overs very badly. Is there any other way to get Kuldeep and Chahal to play together? Kuldeep and Chahal need to get reunited again ASAP!
sandeep Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 Its about balance - Pandya provides the option of up to 10 overs of pace bowling, without weakening the batting. His absence translates into the need to play 3 'bowler only' pacers, which means that one of the 2 spinners have to 'bat'. Jadeja is a terrible temporary band-aid of a solution. TO be fair, I will admit that Jadeja has done better than I thought he would, with ball in hand. But his batting is predictably what it is. Not good enough. And btw, a desperate SOS for KulCha isn't what's needed to improve our ODI fortunes. Today Chahal was effective because for a change, he was bowling without postage stamp boundaries. He usually is effective when given that level playing field. The bottomline is for the Indian team to recognize that the ODI game is different today than it was in 2011 and even 2015. 320 is not enough. A 'good' batting unit should be able to target 360 on decent batting surfaces. And for that, not only are competent batsmen and depth required, but a non-trivial change in batting tactics and attitude in building the innings. There's a reason England won the world cup, beating us along the way. Indian ODI team is the standard bearer of the previous generation of ODI cricket. The writing has been on the wall for years, but selfish top order batting that provides generous opportunities for individual glory, all the while claiming its "good for the team", is too good of a golden goose to break the addiction. I don't blame the odd Shardul or even Jadeja - the buck stops with those making the decisions. diehardpacer, LordPrabhzy, Jimmy Cliff and 6 others 4 5
Vickydev Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 Should go for Axar over Jadeja for the spin AR position. His bowling may not have huge upside but his batting is much more suited to the role. Clean striker of the ball and can go big against both spin and pace. express bowling 1
Global.Baba Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Vickydev said: Should go for Axar over Jadeja for the spin AR position. His bowling may not have huge upside but his batting is much more suited to the role. Clean striker of the ball and can go big against both spin and pace. Unless he has improved his batting in domestics whenever I have seen him bat comes across as a typical Pakistani leg side hack. Stan AF and velu 2
Vickydev Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Global.Baba said: Unless he has improved his batting in domestics whenever I have seen him bat comes across as a typical Pakistani leg side hack. He has improved a lot in the last year or so. Clean hitting with emphasis on timing rather than power. The best lower order hitter in the A side right now. sergio04, Global.Baba and Vijy 1 2
Vijy Posted February 11, 2020 Posted February 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Vickydev said: He has improved a lot in the last year or so. Clean hitting with emphasis on timing rather than power. The best lower order hitter in the A side right now. yes, he has improved and played some good crisis knocks as well. deserves a go instead of pedestrian jaddu. Vickydev 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) kulcha own form is important.....chahal for all the flak he gets has done better in last one year and kuldeep form has dipped . Edited February 12, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 Stan AF 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 AS of now the focus is t20 WC in australia and our fast bowling looks very good if all are fit Bumrah Saini Chahar bhuvi Shami
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: kulcha own form is important.....chahal for all the flak he gets has done better in last one year and kuldeep form has dipped . Chahal picked up 3 wickets each in the last 2 ODI games.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Stan AF said: Chahal picked up 3 wickets each in the last 2 ODI games. he bowled well and better then kuldeep was specially last game. All our bowler have struggled taking wkts this series Stan AF 1
Stan AF Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 On the topic yes absence of Hardik pandya is throwing the entire team off balance.
rkt.india Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 No. We still need a third specialist seamer. Pandya should be batting at 6 and 6th bowler.
vvvslaxman Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 We kicked out JaAsh For a reason. He sneaked back in somehow. Stan AF 1
Laaloo Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 11:27 AM, Global.Baba said: Unless he has improved his batting in domestics whenever I have seen him bat comes across as a typical Pakistani leg side hack. To be honest, jadeja has a s/r of 101 in 49 t20 international and 85 in odis, so it’s not like it’s a huge bar here. Jadeja has been so crap in LOIs.
Sandeep99 Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 India should look past chahal.. R chahar and maybe bishnoi should get a look in
vvvslaxman Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 Let us see how Pandya does after his return Otherwise title will need some editing Is Hardik Pandya’s presence necessary for Kul-Cha to play? to Is Hardik Pandya’s presence necessary? Cricspin and sarcastic 1 1
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