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Curious case of Shaheen Afridi - whither hype, thither reality.

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Compare him to ishaan porel, nagarkoti, Mavis, etc. What happened to them?

That just shows the extreme poverty stricken state of Pak cricket when it comes to producing and managing int'l class fast bowlers...

 

India are currently not that unfortunate. Those three will have their time don't worry.

 

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1 hour ago, Dery said:

Compare him to ishaan porel, nagarkoti, Mavis, etc. What happened to them?

 

More competition in a world class national team, if they played for a sub-par team with lack of selection options ,they too would have gotten to play dozens of games, with patriots making excuses for them.  

 

As such, they will only earn a national cap if they are worthy of it.  Some countries are forced to play suzuki mehran as their lead bowler, others have the luxury to pick from the likes of Boomrah, Shami, Ishant, Bhuvi, Siraj etc etc.  

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11 minutes ago, Dery said:

If guys like mavi, porel,etc were good as Afridi they would be playing ahead of thakur & natrajan in odis atleast 

Not necessarily - both of those 2 are highly rated prospects, but have had injury problems.  Indian selection has a very well-defined 'earning' process - unless a player's skillset matches a role that the national team has a gap in, they have to first perform in a domestic season, then the Irani/Duleep trophy, India "A" team etc.  I think both Mavi and Porel have great chance of eventually playing for India.  But its not going to be handed to them on a platter.  

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In the land of Blind the one eyed man is the King. The Pakistani so called Fast Bowling Factory is churning out the likes of Musa, Hasnain, etc. from past few years, the last genuine talent that they produced was Md. Amir, and we all know how that ended. He's definitely not in the league of Boult or Starc, but one thing I would like to give it to him is that his attitude. He's sort of a work horse and carries the entire bowling on his shoulders. He's young and will only improve. Too early pull out stats of 20 year olds and scrutinize them. 

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1 hour ago, Dery said:

If guys like mavi, porel,etc were good as Afridi they would be playing ahead of thakur & natrajan in odis atleast 

Hahaha.. Logic-e-Pakistan.

 

If Z was better than Y he would be playing ahead of X. LMAO, You guy have self-declared Shaheen as some Yardstick to measure every other bowlers. The fact is Thakur and Nattu both are better than Shaheen but will have uncertain career thanks to pace bowling talent in India. 

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7 minutes ago, the don said:

India will do well to produce a talent like Afridi. Was disspointed with the young bowlers on display. 

Pakistan on the other hand has an endless supply of 90mph pacers.

supply of pacers averaging 43 or more in pace-bowling paradise.  

 

Sometimes I think this don fella is a parody account set up to mock greenbros.

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India will do well to produce a talent like Afridi. Was disspointed with the young bowlers on display. 
Pakistan on the other hand has an endless supply of 90mph pacers.


This 90MPH endless supply is the biggest jumla on planet earth. Can't believe Pak fans are still buying into this.

Fake 16 YO Naseem, Hasnain, Musa got hyped up as some 150 kph speed demons on the back of top quality PSL speedometers and they are usually seen huffing and puffing in late 130s in int'l cricket.
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7 hours ago, sandeep said:

 

So the excuse for Shaheen's horribly poor test bowling performance is lack of bowling "partnerships"?  Aren't greenbro cricket "fans" like the @the don running around touting their pace bowling "depth"?  If there is much pace bowling tailunt in Pakistan, how can Afridi's poor performance be excused by lack of "bowling partners"?  

 

Which one is it? Is Pakistan suffering from a chronic inadequacy in pace bowling, or is Shaheen a poor bowler?  Please let me know using your "have grasp cricket" knowledge.  

pak has bowlers who bowl with jazba chutzspah junoon at 90 mph for 3 overs and 90 kph for rest of the overs as maniac put it so test is not the correct format look at t20 odi pls. 

 

at any rate saheen should be compared with mavi and nagarkoti, Saheen is remarkable in that respect. who do you think would be more evolved in 5 years time when both are in their prime ?

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4 hours ago, Dery said:

If guys like mavi, porel,etc were good as Afridi they would be playing ahead of thakur & natrajan in odis atleast 

i hear you pace demon but this is India , land of snake charmers and the accurate trundlers. Thakur is a decent fast medium he will deliver the customary 2 deliveries at 144 every match.  Nattu is a specialist death over yorker trundler, there is institutional growth path for such bowlers in India, rivaled only by the 90s england's 'jolly medium' brigade, a full blown hit to the ribs flush will still be pleasurable. 

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4 hours ago, the don said:

India will do well to produce a talent like Afridi. Was disspointed with the young bowlers on display. 

Pakistan on the other hand has an endless supply of 90mph pacers.

Endless supply of trundling fodders yes. They won't survive test matches. 

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Fast bowling is a difficult art & in modern era where fast bowlers are being carted around in limited overs he is a great prospect for Pak team.  Don't get the point of the thread seriously.  Barring Rabada who somehow took 250 wickets in a very short time..  Young bowlers have found it tough recently. 

It's not easy for a young bowler to be the spearhead of an Int'l attack so soon.  Poyzz TM are bowling him to the ground in every single game they play I think. 

Someone like Bharat Arun & Indian TM will shape him to compete with best in the world.  Credit to Shaheen he is surviving somehow.  I think he will break down one day if his workload isn't managed.  

 

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Fast bowling is a difficult art & in modern era where fast bowlers are being carted around in limited overs he is a great prospect for Pak team.  Don't get the point of the thread seriously.  Barring Rabada who somehow took 250 wickets in a very short time..  Young bowlers have found it tough recently. 

It's not easy for a young bowler to be the spearhead of an Int'l attack so soon.  Poyzz TM are bowling him to the ground in every single game they play I think. 

Someone like Bharat Arun & Indian TM will shape him to compete with best in the world.  Credit to Shaheen he is surviving somehow.  I think he will break down one day if his workload isn't managed.  

 

Shaheen is world class in odi. Have to see more of him in T20 but he isn't ready in tests. He is good but not that good in tests. 

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1 hour ago, Jay said:

Shaheen is world class in odi. Have to see more of him in T20 but he isn't ready in tests. He is good but not that good in tests. 

Yep test cricket is gonna test him especially when he is with a weak side.  I remember how Shami used to struggle in his younger days in 2013-14 period...  When we were a poor touring side. 

Shaheen at a young age is leading the bowling attack which is pathetic to see really.  He has shown great development for a rookie though.  Imagine him alongside current Bumrah Shami Ishant trio who have fair bit of experience..  He will start running through sides as well. 

Instead he has got guys like Abbas the trundler,   Lassan Ali who himself hasn't done anything substantial in Test cricket pairing with him. 

 

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