Tokyo 2020 Paralympics: Record 19 medals thus far!!!! Amazing

[upriser7]

20 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Worse is archery.. 

 

 

 

But medals weren't expected in Archery...atleast in the pre-tournament previews I followed, most of them didn't expect us to get a medal in archery unless some big upsets happen. Also,unlike archery, there are lot many more events in shooting and we had multiple shooting prospects. It's 2nd straight Olympics where we ended up with zero medals in shooting when it was expected to be our most productive field. One positive thing is that atleast some of our medal prospects in shooting are still relatively young...hope this is a good learning experience. Bindra himselves had a meltdown in 2004 before finally winning Gold in 2008.

[Lord]

25 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Worse is archery.. 

 

 

 

 

her glasses must have gotten fogged

[MechEng]

At the end of day guys remember that nothing is bigger than the game, not even the medal.

 

We Indians are notorious for over pampering our athletes when they do good, and then talk trash about them when they lose.

 

Let's hope we do even better at Paris 2024 and cheer for our athletes in both ups and downs. We can all hope for our athletes to give their best, baaki medal milna is all dependent on kismat..

Edited August 7, 2021 by MechEng

[G_B_]

Phogat wrsetling

Panghal boxing

Chaudhary shooting

Chaudhary/bhakar shooting combined

Bhaker shooting

People expected to do well who missed out or underperformed.  5 events.

 

People who just missed out

 

Aditi ashok golf (4th)

Kamalpreet kaur discuss (6th)

Satish kumar boxing qf

Pooja Rani boxing qf

Womens hockey team 4th

Punia (other one) lost bronze medal match wrestling

 

Any other mentions? 

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

49 minutes ago, Number said:

One thing puzzled me 

Tokyo has higher humidity and is at greater sea elevation than Rio.

Still nobody crossed 88 mts here.

While in Rio 88+ was Silver.

Wind direction support ?

Elevation difference is immaterial, not enough to make any difference, IMO, between the two places. I think in thin air at higher altitudes objects travel far. Tokyo, Rio both are low altitudes and dense air.

Edited August 7, 2021 by rkt.india

[Lord]

1 minute ago, G_B_ said:

Phogat wrsetling

Panghal boxing

Chaudhary shooting

Chaudhary/bhakar shooting combined

Bhaker shooting

People expected to do well who missed out or underperformed.  5 events.

 

People who just missed out

 

Aditi ashok golf (4th)

Kamalpreet kaur discuss (6th)

Satish kumar boxing qf

Pooja Rani boxing qf

Womens hockey team 4th

Punia (other one) lost bronze medal match wrestling

 

Any other mentions? 

 

 

 

 

mary kom?

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 minute ago, G_B_ said:

Phogat wrsetling

Panghal boxing

Chaudhary shooting

Chaudhary/bhakar shooting combined

Bhaker shooting

People expected to do well who missed out or underperformed.  5 events.

 

People who just missed out

 

Aditi ashok golf (4th)

Kamalpreet kaur discuss (6th)

Satish kumar boxing qf

Pooja Rani boxing qf

Womens hockey team 4th

Punia (other one) lost bronze medal match wrestling

 

Any other mentions? 

 

 

 

Archery Men's team and Mixed Team: QF

Deepika - QF

 

All three faced South Korean opponents, anyone else and who knows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Number]

Atanu was also in QF right ?

[ShoonyaSifar]

4 minutes ago, Number said:

Atanu was also in QF right ?

Lost to the Japanese Archer in Pre-quarterfinals, 1/8 eliminations

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, deathmonger said:

 

all of pakistan were hyped and were watching that match to see if their 30 year run could be broken, only to see india win gold. sometimes life is very very good.

Can't blame paxtan here,they have sent their best athletes in pados Afghanastan,Had they been here ,they would have had an "explosive" outing here

[ShoonyaSifar]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

Who the hell is hating on neeraj. This had beej your modus operandi, lie and lie and lie to rake up hatred and propaganda. You wont even let go of this great achievement to just spread haterdd and division. 

 

And if course you dont have  the brain to understand most of these twitter accounts are fake, some created by Pakistanis to fool people like you and spread hatred and division 

WTF are you talking about? You can go f*** yourself for all I care. Don't need any validation from you. 

 

 

[deathmonger]

2 hours ago, Vilander said:

Worse is archery.. 

 

 

 

 

archers did well. they performed to expectations. went through and lost to koreans.

 

shooters disappointed. especially bhaker/chaudhary. anyways they are 19. lets see in paris.

[deathmonger]

1 hour ago, G_B_ said:

Phogat wrsetling

Panghal boxing

Chaudhary shooting

Chaudhary/bhakar shooting combined

Bhaker shooting

People expected to do well who missed out or underperformed.  5 events.

 

People who just missed out

 

Aditi ashok golf (4th)

Kamalpreet kaur discuss (6th)

Satish kumar boxing qf

Pooja Rani boxing qf

Womens hockey team 4th

Punia (other one) lost bronze medal match wrestling

 

Any other mentions? 

 

 

 

 

the 2nd group all performed above expectations though.

maybe deepak punia not so much.

 

above expectations medals were:

lovlina

dahiya (thought he'd get bronze at best)

chopra (thought he'd get silver)

 

below expectation medals:

bajrang (thought he'd get silver)

 

par medals:

chanu was silver favourite and got it

sindhu was a bronze contender among others and got it

indian men's hockey was a bronze contender among others and got it

 

[SujitPrakash]

Why scrapping gold medal predictions worked wonders for Australia in Tokyo

 

The decision to scrap Australia’s public gold medal projections has been a factor in the country’s stunning Tokyo Olympic Games performance, according to the boss of the Australian Institute of Sport.

 

As the delayed Olympics come to a close on Sunday, the man responsible for allocating public funds to Australia’s national sporting organisations has backed the Australian Olympic Committee’s decision to abolish medal targets after underperforming in Rio.

 

Australia won eight gold and 29 medals overall in 2016, the nation’s lowest haul since Barcelona in 1992.

 

But following a record-breaking Olympics in which Australia has equalled its Athens total of 17 gold medals and has had athletes on the podium in 18 different sports, AIS chief executive Peter Conde said medal forecasts “have the potential to hurt”.

 

“We have private medal targets because that’s how we hold sports and ourselves accountable, but having public medal targets I think achieves no good purpose,” Conde told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

 

“We totally agree with the AOC and have supported that approach. Accountability is an important part of this and there’s no entitlement to get public funds; we have to earn it and demonstrate as a system of athletes, coaches, leaders and institutions we can get good results for the public investment.

 

Jessica Fox with her gold medal.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

 

 

“But out of Rio one of the big things that was identified was performance under pressure, which was an issue. That involved not converting opportunities, and you would have to say that’s been a massive turnaround [in Tokyo].”

 

Sport Australia and its high-performance arm, the AIS, enlisted a gold medal alumni of 40 athletes to speak to Australia’s representatives heading to Tokyo about their experiences dealing with the pressure of an Olympics. Some of the speakers included swimmer Leisel Jones, beach volleyballers Kerri Pottharst and Natalie Cook as well as hockey legend Brent Livermore.

 

It has all contributed to one of Australia’s most successful Olympics on record, consigning underwhelming overall medal hauls from London and Rio to history.

 

The former Australian Sports Commission and AIS was criticised that each medal won by its athletes in Rio cost more than $11 million to the taxpayer, a figure which has been slashed to $8.1 million in Tokyo.

 

Olympic funding

Each sport's average funding per year from 2016-21

 

 

Swimming	$10,104,608 $10,104,608	9 gold, 3 silver, 9 bronze	37
Cycling	$8,729,081 $8,729,081	1 gold, 2 bronze	29
Rowing	$8,393,317 $8,393,317	2 gold, 2 bronze	38
Sailing	$8,328,326 $8,328,326	2 gold	13
Athletics	$7,684,892 $7,684,892	1 silver, 2 bronze*	63
Hockey	$6,201,337 $6,201,337	1 silver	32
Paddling	$5,988,582 $5,988,582	2 gold, 1 bronze	17
Basketball	$5,263,720 $5,263,720	1 bronze	24
Water polo	$3,397,091 $3,397,091	0	26
Diving	$2,857,787 $2,857,787	1 bronze	7
Triathlon	$2,533,253 $2,533,253	0	6
Shooting	$2,522,250 $2,522,250	0	15
Equestrian	$2,500,284 $2,500,284	1 silver, 1 bronze	8
Volleyball	$2,478,424 $2,478,424	1 silver	4
Gymnastics	$2,343,122 $2,343,122	0	11
Rugby union	$2,301,231 $2,301,231	0	26
Softball	$1,569,178 $1,569,178	0	15
Surfing	$1,515,797 $1,515,797	1 bronze	4
Golf	$1,155,500 $1,155,500	0	4
Combat institute	$913,138 $913,138	–	–
Boxing	$910,353 $910,353	1 bronze	5
Archery	$892,063 $892,063	0	4
Judo	$625,068 $625,068	0	3
Baseball	$564,662 $564,662	Did not qualify	–
Badminton	$505,067 $505,067	0	4
Tae-kwon do	$456,531 $456,531	0	4
Weightlifting	$421,703 $421,703	0	5
Skate	$379,100 $379,100	1 gold	5
Table tennis	$313,225 $313,225	0	6
Modern pentathlon	$239,834 $239,834	0*	2

* Still competing.
Results correct as at Saturday 11pm AEST.

 

 

Officials have always strongly argued funding-to-medal calculations are not an accurate reflection of overall success.

 

The AIS’ highest-funded able-bodied high performance programs of swimming ($10.1 million per year), rowing ($8.39 million per year), sailing ($8.33 million per year) and paddling ($5.99 million) have all delivered bang for buck, while team sports involving the Boomers, who won their first Olympics medal, Kookaburras and Matildas also produced outstanding performances.

 

The funding was calculated from publicly available accounts for the five years up until Tokyo.

 

The ASC pumped $340 million into summer Olympic sports in the four-year cycle leading up to Rio under its contentious 10-year Winning Edge program, which prioritised sports that had the greatest chance of short-term success and Games medals.

 

Emma McKeon after winning 50m freestyle gold on the final day of swimming in Tokyo. CREDIT:AP

 

 

It was modelled on Great Britain’s national lottery funding model and designed to “retain Australia’s pre-eminent position in world sport” as a top-five medal nation after declining Olympics performances. But Winning Edge was disbanded after just five years in 2017 in favour of “a more balanced approach to elite sport”.

 

In all, documents show the ASC, rebranded as Sport Australia in 2018, and the AIS injected $358 million into summer sports from the 2016-17 financial year until the end of 2019-20. But that also included Paralympic funding for 2017-18, which wasn’t distinguished from able-bodied high performance programs.

 

Although swimming underpinned Australia’s stunning Tokyo haul (nine gold in the pool and bronze in open water), the reality is the country has won medals across a far greater variety of sports than in Rio (12).

 

Included among that haul was Taliqua Clancy and Mariafe Artacho del Solar’s women’s beach volleyball silver (first medal in the sport since 2000) and Harry Garside’s boxing bronze (first since 1988), while first-time Olympic urban sports such as BMX freestyle and skateboarding have helped the gold rush.

“We have private medal targets ... but having public medal targets I think achieves no good purpose.”

Peter Conde

But Australia has also made significant strides in track and field with Peter Bol fourth in the men’s 800m final and the emergence of 1500m runners Linden Hall, Jessica Hull, Stewart McSweyn and Ollie Hoare, who all made their respective finals. Decathlete Ash Moloney also delivered a soul-stirring bronze medal across 10 gruelling events.

 

“We did a lot of work with athletics refocusing their program and we did a lot of work with volleyball as well,” Conde said. “We haven’t had a boxing medal for over 30 years and a combat medal for 20 years.

 

“[The amount of different sports winning medals] is back to where it needs to be, and there will be other sports there where we will expect to medal in the future.

 

“I think what we did in 2017 was acknowledge a more balanced approach with less focus on immediate medal achievements, but creating sustainable systems in sports to deliver success, focusing on athlete wellbeing and engagement with their communities as well as building great culture. This was an evolution of that.

 

Mariafe Artacho del Solar combined with Taliqua Clancy to win Australia’s first beach volleyball medal since Sydney 2000.CREDIT:AP

 

“You can’t support every sport to the extent they would like to be supported and sometimes we have to make tough decisions, particularly in their top high performance programs. But what we are doing is investing in performance pathways for many of those sports.”

 

Table Tennis Australia chief executive Scott Houston said last week he was concerned the sport’s high performance program was being left in the cold despite six-time Olympian Jian Fang Lay equalling the country’s best ever Games performance, reaching the third round in the women’s singles.

 

The AIS will continue to pump funds into the urban sports for the Paris cycle after Logan Martin’s inaugural gold medal in the BMX freestyle, followed on by Keegan Palmer’s skateboarding park success.

 

Surfing banked $7.87 million for its high performance program and special purpose grants in the five-year cycle before Tokyo, while skateboarding ($1.99 million) was also heavily funded.

 

“Success like [Australia’s performances at Tokyo Olympics] is never attributable to one thing,” Conde said.

 

“I think back to my experience in sport and when we were always successful we talked about three things and they remain relevant; those are around people, the system and great attention to detail, such as the Tokyo heat project.

 

“You’ve also got to think about a first agreed national high performance strategy that all states and territories signed up to, it united a national institute network to share insights and share data. It’s chalk and cheese compared to what it was three years ago.”

 

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/why-scrapping-gold-medal-predictions-worked-wonders-for-australia-in-tokyo-20210806-p58gnm.html

 

Australia just keeps on finishing in the top 5 or top 10 every Olympics, always competitive in any world sport, wonder what it is about Australians that make them so competitive?

[Gollum]

5 hours ago, G_B_ said:

@Gollum @neel roy  bharath

 

Whats your overall view of this Olympics.

 

Have enjoyed reading your views amongst many other posters. Feel this thread has been very informative 

Quite pleased, yesterday's results just made it all the more sweeter. Happy to see us doing well in a variety of events including obscure ones (from Indian pov) like women's golf, fencing, equestrian, rowing. Neeraj and (both) hockey teams were the best part about our campaign, was expecting a bit more from our wrestlers but that just shows how far we have come...few years ago their 2 medals would be celebrated like anything, now expectation is higher. 

 

Only real disappointments are shooting and men's boxing contingents, stopped believing the archery hype since we don't meet Koreans in WCs and ranking tournaments. 

 

Has been exhausting, sleep pattern in ruins, need to have a relook at this thread later after some rest and getting schedule back on track. Maybe I will write a more detailed post in a few weeks.....or month's time, perspective then may be more objective than emotional. 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Gollum

[Gollum]

7 hours ago, Number said:

Less the humidity more dense the air hence difficult to throw far.

More the humidity, less it travels in the air I think. Which is counter-intuitive as humidity decreases air density slightly. Maybe some physics expert can provide an explanation, anything to do with spin/revolutions of the thrown object? We have enough examples of this in tennis, like in Miami Masters 1000 vis-a-vis Indian Wells @I6MTW @Cricketics @Real McCoy

 

Drier, hotter, desert like conditions means more distance/speed through the air at least in tennis. Also altitude matters, and wind direction/speed.  

Edited August 8, 2021 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Srini Mama is a true sports lover. 

[Gollum]

Even these guys deserve a lot of respect...punched above their weight on the big stage. Asian record is cool, especially since China, Japan and some Gulf countries (with African imports) have made great strides in athletics. 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Gollum

[9zaesm]

Feels weird …nothing to watch tonight lol 

[Gollum]

Pakistan the largest country not to medal, 7th straight Games in a row. Last won a (hockey) bronze in 1992 Barcelona. Respect to athletes like Arshad Nadeem and Talha Talib, but that is one appalling record. Once their hockey declined they stopped having realistic medal hopes in Olympics. Kaali Dal should focus on helping out athletes like Nadeem, instead of ranting like a psycho on twitter 24x7.

 

Bangladesh has an even more pathetic record, yet to win a single Olympic medal, they don't even come close. Do they have prominent sportspersons apart from a couple of cricketers?

 

At least Lankans had the legendary sprinter Jayasinghe who won silver in 2000 Sydney. Even Afghans have a couple of medals in Taekwondo since 2008 Beijing.