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Posted
4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

He was able to seamlessly mix off spin/leg spin  and seam up deliveries. 

 

 

once @New guy argued sachin was a better leg spinner than kumble :hmm:

seen many times , when sachin bowled legspin , he could turn square 

Posted
39 minutes ago, speed_thrills said:

Why are they playing an ODI in whites?

Whites for day matches, coloured for day-night used to be the norm. 

Posted
2 hours ago, speed_thrills said:

Why are they playing an ODI in whites?

The last ODI in whites with red ball was in India vs Zim in late 2000. All the bilateral ODI series in India were in whites with red ball before that. I'm sure that was the case in England also.

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A 19-20 year old Tendulkar would already be the highest paid player in this league for allround skills . Sachin underbowled because he was having fun when bowling. Extremely entertaining bowler. 
 

On a lighter note: I remember Sachin’s bowling  winning more matches than his 100’s :giggle:

 

On top of my head: The hero cup final

 

1992 B & H series where he was our 5th bowler bowled a final over which helped tie the game. 

 

5fr vs Australia 

 

5fr vs Pakistan

 

His bowling in the 2001 Kolkata test that often gets overlooked.

 

Has many such freakish spells and match changing moments with the ball.

Posted
3 hours ago, mishra said:

I think even he didn’t knew if its legspin, offspin, top spin, so would have been very handy in t20 

 

Simple plan. Leg spin to right handers. Off spin to lefties.

Posted
21 hours ago, Adamant said:

Whatever he averaged in the odis in that era + 7 aand whatever his economy rate in that era was +1.

So basically a bowling avg of 50 at economy of 6.1 in odis. 

No he wouldnt, there were better players of spin in his era than now

 

But then in this super star era he wouldn't bother to bowl at all like none of our super stars do

Posted
1 hour ago, New guy said:

No he wouldnt, there were better players of spin in his era than now

 

But then in this super star era he wouldn't bother to bowl at all like none of our super stars do

I will apply the same logic that you use to berate modern players, small ground sizes, flatter pitches, one ball and no turners in this era, so Yes Sachin would have been hammered. If top spinners these day like Rashid average 32 then definitely Sachin would have averaged 50. He avgd 44 in a bowling friendly era lol, definitely his avg would go up in a batting friendly era. How is that even up for debate. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, New guy said:

No he wouldnt, there were better players of spin in his era than now

 

But then in this super star era he wouldn't bother to bowl at all like none of our super stars do

 

they dont have the ability of even Sehwag. Maybe Rohit but he has shoulder problems

Posted
20 minutes ago, Adamant said:

I will apply the same logic that you use to berate modern players, small ground sizes, flatter pitches, one ball and no turners in this era, so Yes Sachin would have been hammered. If top spinners these day like Rashid average 32 then definitely Sachin would have averaged 50. He avgd 44 in a bowling friendly era lol, definitely his avg would go up in a batting friendly era. How is that even up for debate. 

 

How was ODI a bowling friendly era in 2000s? Averge score was over 300, which today is rare.  Pitches are definitely not flatter today compared to 2000s when sachin did bulk of his bowling

 

Also grounds are only smaller in t20s and not ODIs

Posted
1 minute ago, New guy said:

How was ODI a bowling friendly era in 2000s? Averge score was over 300, which today is rare.  Pitches are definitely not flatter today compared to 2000s when sachin did bulk of his bowling

 

Also grounds are only smaller in t20s and not ODIs

So why does Sachin average only 44 with the bat at 86 str rate compared to modern day bats then? 

 

Secondly are you kidding me? 300 is rare these days! What? 

Also Sachin did most of his bowling pre 2005, 300 was a huge score at that time please go and take a look at how may 300+ scores have been scored in the 2010 decade vs the noughties. 

 

I am a firm believer that Sachin in this era would have averaged 55 at 95 or something, you are definitely underrating him by saying he played on flatter pitches and equally small grounds. 

Also test pitches were comparatively way flatter during the noughties but not loi pitches also no two balls rule. 

Posted
5 hours ago, New guy said:

No he wouldnt, there were better players of spin in his era than now

 

But then in this super star era he wouldn't bother to bowl at all like none of our super stars do

 

Current superstars not bowling has more to do with their lack of ability than 'superstar culture'. 

 

Also two new balls in ODIs and flat wickets have almost killed part time spinners. 

Posted (edited)

If Tendulkar had an opportunity to bowl to current Kohli he would be averaging 15 lol Rashid a half tracker specialist somehow managed to have a wood over Kohli dismissing him 10 times across the format imagine what Tendulkar who could bowl just like Warne in patches would have done.

Edited by vvvslaxman
Posted
16 hours ago, Adamant said:

So why does Sachin average only 44 with the bat at 86 str rate compared to modern day bats then? 

His bowling average was worse since he bowled in flat pitches against ATG bat's  and his batting average is lower since he batted against all time greats in pitches conducive to bowling ok.. Don't bring small things like facts on how pitches can be flat and conducive at same time.. We are talking about GODDY HERE.

- Shashank Majreghatimumbaikar 

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