New Zealand the most undeserving world champs ever?

[R!TTER]

Sneaked in the WTC on the back of slow over rate by Oz in MCG, played two tests against the host (nation) of WTC final. Not to mention played pretty much no one of note away & got walloped by Oz like minnows on their last tour! Has there ever been a team less deserving of the World champions title? And then their homie commie Simon Doull always brings up the neutral conditions BS when talking about WTC, Eng is as neutral to India as SL or Bangladesh is to NZ (vs Ind) 

Edited December 6, 2021 by R!TTER

[Jamadagni]

No, that is England. Lost to Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Australia in group stages, barely made it to semis(thanks to India) and then in the final...well.....

Edited December 6, 2021 by Jamadagni

[Vk1]

except for that fateful overthrow ( which mattered the most ) I suppose NZ have always been the luckiest team in cricket..

[Jay]

Yep but they are worthy number 3 after india and Aussies imo.

[Adamant]

Newzealand is definitely amongst the top three team, surely better than SA and Eng. 

 

I think you are terribly underrating them. 

Jamieson is their trump card and they have some great talent coming. 

[goose]

i understand the rationale, but this sort of thing is just so unattractive.

[R!TTER]

That WTC final was just a farce, it was like the ICC/ECB handed over the trophy to them! Now if NZ didn't play Eng before the final I could give them more credit, but that was by far the most unfair "multilateral" finale I've ever seen in cricket 

 

These chumps would get slaughtered if we play them anywhere in Asia & probably 7/8 other test nations.

[rollingstoned]

good team but i want to see how they go in a long series in India, england and australia, maybe Saf too. I don't see them from this position for instance competing well in the rest of the matches if this was a 4 or 5 match series which they almost never play.

[ShoonyaSifar]

Forget the WTC but now home and away they are leading us 2-1.

 

Credit where due.

[Jay]

22 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

good team but i want to see how they go in a long series in India, england and australia, maybe Saf too. I don't see them from this position for instance competing well in the rest of the matches if this was a 4 or 5 match series which they almost never play.

This is what a likely result would be aquarium from home;

4-0 india or 3 0

4 0 Australia 

They can draw vs england

2-1 or 3-1 saffers

 

Saffers are terribly underrated. I am extremely worried about our batting vs them. Olivier is back.

 

[Jay]

4 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Forget the WTC but now home and away they are leading us 2-1.

 

Credit where due.

Cmon the first test they got extremely lucky lol. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

10 minutes ago, Jay said:

Cmon the first test they got extremely lucky lol. 

Yes they did, but also showed a lot of resilience. Batted almost the entire day 5, not many teams can do that in India. We hardly put up a fight in NZ.

Edited December 6, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar

[rkt.india]

20 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Yes they did, but also showed a lot of resilience. Batted almost the entire day 5, not many teams can do that in India. We hardly put up a fight in NZ.

We played without our 6 first xi players. No Shami. No Siraj due to injury. Imagine NZ doing same in NZ playing without Boult, Southee. Without 6 starters.

Edited December 6, 2021 by rkt.india

[Sean Bradley]

Why underserving? our IPL Rockstars had a chance to beat them in the WTC, they didn't. We have no right to call them underserving, when our own team couldn't get the job done in the WTC final. 

[nevada]

2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Forget the WTC but now home and away they are leading us 2-1.

 

Credit where due.

A golden opportunity to clean sweep them was lost thanks to bad selections in the first test. 

[zen]

"Undeserving" 

 

[cricketfan28]

Not sure about undeserving but their descent has started .. they are going back to their mediocre 90's form.

[waga]

It was more that there are currently 3 actual test teams and Australia threw about 4 tests that they should have walked home

[Jay]

1 hour ago, waga said:

It was more that there are currently 3 actual test teams and Australia threw about 4 tests that they should have walked home

Aussies threw 2 vs england. Who else? They deserved to lose to india. 

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Who else?

SA, had they toured them they'd have likely won the series with ease & qualified unlikely our kiwi chicken nuggets