Austin 3:!6 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 With apologies to brother @zen I had to ask this question. He is not even bowling his full quota of 4 overs in a T20 game. Today was the perfect opportunity where he was our best fast bowler but he bowled only two. Will he be able to take the work load in an ODI game and bowl 10 overs regularly? And if he cannot bowl, does he deserve to be vice captain of the team or we could have groomed someone younger to take the mantle from Rohit Sharma after 2023 world cup? Discuss sandeep, raki05, sorak and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Bowling full quota is only a requirement if a team is playing just 5 bowlers and a player is picked as one of the five bowlers. Most teams use 6 to 7 bowlers so not everyone bowls his full quota. Most teams will have players who can both bat and bowl, and used per the match situations. As for me, Sir Don Pandya is the best choice for captaincy and should be made ODi captain asap! Edited January 5, 2023 by zen Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Who else if not Pandya? Majestic 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: Who else if not Pandya? Bumrah when he is back full time all format player with no insecurity of spot. ps: I am ok with Pandya as a t20 skipper :) just giving you an option since you asked Austin 3:!6 and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Maybe he is not bowling in T20s because he thinks he will have to bowl a lot in ODIs? Either way, Hardik is a 6th bowler so don't expect him to bowl more than 6-7 overs in ODIs..Also, he isn't getting dropped there because his spot at 6 is pretty much confirmed and it will Jadeja, Axar or Sundar competing for no 7 spot. If Hardik gets injured then only a Sundar/Hooda can be played at 6. Coming to Hardik the ODI player, in England, he won us that decider ODI by picking 4 wickets and scoring 70 odd from collapse. So, there is no question on his place in LOIs. Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Why so many threads on Pandya's captaincy? What's bothering you all, I don't get it? Let's have a look at other options: Iyer - Piss poor captain and a dummy one too. He needs input from coach for every damn move. Moreover, he shouldn't be in the t20 squad. Pant - Unlike Iyer, he takes his own decisions, but those were usually braindead calls. Who else? I agree Surya maybe a good choice. But Pandya proved himself by winning trophy with the weakest team ever in IPL history, and his captaincy was a big part in it. So for LOIs, Pandya should be captain and Surya to be VC. That's the way to go. Vijy and sandeep 2 Link to comment
ThirtyD. Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, zen said: Bowling full quota is only a requirement if a team is playing just 5 bowlers and a player is picked as one of the five bowlers. Most teams use 6 to 7 bowlers so not everyone bowls his full quota. Most teams will have players who can both bat and bowl, and used per the match situations. As for me, Sir Don Pandya is the best choice for captaincy and should be made ODi captain asap! On what basis? Him continuing "consolidating" legacy from our previous stalwarts? He can barely accelerate or bowl full quota of overs in T20i raki05 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, ThirtyD. said: On what basis? Him continuing "consolidating" legacy from our previous stalwarts? He can barely accelerate or bowl full quota of overs in T20i In T20 World Cup, he bowled more overs than specialist bowler Trundler Kumar and the spinners also. He is getting unnecessary flak considering he is Andho me Kaana raaj for us at the moment. sandeep and Vijy 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 29 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: With apologies to brother @zen I had to ask this question. He is not even bowling his full quota of 4 overs in a T20 game. Today was the perfect opportunity where he was our best fast bowler but he bowled only two. Will he be able to take the work load in an ODI game and bowl 10 overs regularly? And if he cannot bowl, does he deserve to be vice captain of the team or we could have groomed someone younger to take the mantle from Rohit Sharma after 2023 world cup? Discuss No he does not deserve the VC. He is into his 7 year of international cricket and he is the only player who has played for so long and yet to develop an identity. Kapil Dev was bowler first , his batting was bonus, Bowling was his constant.Dhoni was WK first , his batting was bonus.What is Pandya? This nonsense some guys spew he is sixth bowler so he does not need to bowl his 4 overs is ridiculous. It would have been fine if he chose to become finisher and developed a habbit of scoring with very high SR every innings.Since he is not that guy his bowling becomes very important. He is not good enough to play in the team as a batsman, He needs lot of time to get going and is very limited with his strokes.He has to bowl 4 overs in 8 out 10 matches and then that gives more options to the captain in this case himself. nitinbwj, raki05 and sorak 1 1 1 Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Pandya = emperor's new clothes. Will soon get exposed and it won't be a pretty sight. sorak, cricspirit, raki05 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
diehardpacer Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 He still needs to sort out his batting issues & bowling is still a work in progress .He seems not strong enough physically to handle all this workload .Fine for T20s . I would give the leadership to either SKY/ Gill or some guaranteed starters in playing XI in ODIs for stability if they become regular & play well. It seems TM wants to keep Rohit/Rahul in leadership no matter what . Either way the captain has to be a guaranteed selection both performance & fitness wise . raki05 1 Link to comment
Moochad Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Don't think so, he cant realiably finish bowling a full quota in T20s even. He is always on borrowed time. raki05 1 Link to comment
gattaca Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) Pandya is not fit even in the first t20 he struggled and didn’t bowl the last over. His batting has been in decline as well. He shouldn’t be the captain for ODIs. Edited January 6, 2023 by gattaca raki05 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 He loves to put teams in tough situations and see how the team responds. As part of the experiment. He will not complete his quota. won't score runs for 10 matches and see how they react. It is all part of the plan. His final experiment will be , he will not bowl or bat to see how the team will respond. Vijy, cricspirit, raki05 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Adamant Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Hardik Pandya's iq is very low, I am not sure if he will be able to become a good captain. He is just the flavor of the season. Vilander, raki05 and Lord 2 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Adamant said: Hardik Pandya's iq is very low, I am not sure if he will be able to become a good captain. He is just the flavor of the season. Exactly this he is just cypher among zero as other option is kela ,anyone other than kela is already an upgrade. Pant is already injured so this is good time to showcase what he got. Vijy 1 Link to comment
ThirtyD. Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Again, question needs to be asked what is HP's role in limited overs cricket (T20i included)? His batting SR and bowling avg are really questionable for him to be part of the LOI, let alone to lead or be a vice captain of the team. When will we start picking captains based on merit? raki05 1 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 He has done his job today. Bowled last few overs and picked important wickets. Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, ThirtyD. said: Again, question needs to be asked what is HP's role in limited overs cricket (T20i included)? His batting SR and bowling avg are really questionable for him to be part of the LOI, let alone to lead or be a vice captain of the team. When will we start picking captains based on merit? We have only two options - Boom and him. Choose any of them. Link to comment
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