Gollum Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 (edited) Ex-India captain slams Bumrah for playing England Tests on 'personal preference': 'If you are unfit, don’t play at all' LINK “What is important is playing for India, and if you are unfit, then don’t play at all. He had a gap of almost seven-eight days after the first Test match but still was not included for the second Test, which was not acceptable. Maybe it was acceptable for Agarkar and Gambhir,” Vengsarkar told Revsportz. “I’m not in favour of bowlers picking and choosing Test matches. If you’re fit and available, you should play all the matches for your country. Bumrah is a world-class bowler, and he can win matches for India. But once you’re on tour, you need to play every match. There’s no question of selecting matches based on personal preference,” he added. Edited July 21, 2025 by Gollum
nevada Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 We should move past Bumrah, and depending on one specific bowler, whoever it may be. Bowler rotation has been a topic since Steve Waugh's time. There is no point blaming individuals. Chalks, Stan AF and Frustrated 3
New guy Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 We don't know how to handle fast bowlers and Vengserkar is no different in his mentality. Number, sorak, express bowling and 6 others 2 7
Nikhil_cric Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 It's not his personal preference. His body can't take the load. That's an unfortunate reality that we have to live with. Gollum, Lord, Sgattick10 and 2 others 5
nevada Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: It's not his personal preference. His body can't take the load. That's an unfortunate reality that we have to live with. +1. Better to have him partially for a series than not at all! Nikhil_cric, express bowling, singhvivek141 and 2 others 5
Gollum Posted July 21, 2025 Author Posted July 21, 2025 18 minutes ago, New guy said: We don't know how to handle fast bowlers and Vengserkar is no different in his mentality. And not like Bumrah is underperforming whenever he is playing, he is still the MVP every time he takes the field. Messi doesn't play for Argentina these days, also plays in the inferior MLS in USA, still will be first name come the 2026 WC. At his age, he is protecting his body and will go full tilt only in the WC, not even Copa America. Arg fans are fine with that. That is because that country has a sporting culture.....Indians lack that, they treat pro sports like some 9-5 job. New guy, Chalks and GoldenSun 3
Gollum Posted July 21, 2025 Author Posted July 21, 2025 Scary part is Vengsarkar is an ex-captain, veteran of 100+ tests, successful chief selector few years back, runs many cricket academies in Mumbai, so in touch with the modern game. Still has dehati mindset. New guy, GoldenSun and Ultimate_Game 1 2
putrevus Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 (edited) Nothing wrong in what Vengsarkar has said, how is Bumrah so certain he will remain injury free if he picks and chooses the tests. If he hasd played first three tests and then he felt tired , he should not play last two. They were not back to back tests either. Lot of gap was in between tests. Abusing Vengsarkar is ridiculous. As I said many times days of Bumrah being a factor in India winning in SENA are over . Edited July 21, 2025 by putrevus
R!TTER Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 He is right - Sydney(?) 2nd innings & first test second innings where he sat out both cost us dearly! New guy 1
New guy Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 8 minutes ago, R!TTER said: He is right - Sydney(?) 2nd innings & first test second innings where he sat out both cost us dearly! Why does England rest Archer so much and not whind about him missing matches? Ultimate_Game and GoldenSun 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Irrespective of Bumrah is fit or not you have to roate your bowlers adequately. India has played too many matches in a short span since october, last year. He is not like Rohit sharma who is scared of foreign tours and sitting out or taking "family break" "Maternity break" even though fully fit for an important series. Ultimate_Game, Manucrick and Sgattick10 2 1
bowl_out Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Yeah, best is run him to the ground like what Rohit did to him in Sydney. Even Reddy and Akashdeep couldn't last 2 matches and this guy is complaining about Bumrah express bowling, Ultimate_Game, Lord and 1 other 1 3
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 None of these @sshats had the balls to say anything when Kohli and Rohit skipped series, and picked and chose when they would play. In fact they skipped warm up games despite not playing the previous series and coming back from their long vacations. Bumrah has a genuine reason not to play all the matches to protect his body but likes of Kohli and Rohit had none! Yet likes of Vengsarkar, Gavaskar didn't utter a word, forget about criticizing them! sorak, express bowling, bowl_out and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Since Bumrah's debut overs per match by each fast bowler rollingstoned, express bowling, Manucrick and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 After SCG test he looked dejected because he was in the XI but couldn't bowl. He didn't want that situation again. as he played 5 tests in a row there. Fans should rally around a champion bowler like him. Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 2
Trichromatic Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 42 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: None of these @sshats had the balls to say anything when Kohli and Rohit skipped series, and picked and chose when they would play. In fact they skipped warm up games despite not playing the previous series and coming back from their long vacations. Bumrah has a genuine reason not to play all the matches to protect his body but likes of Kohli and Rohit had none! Yet likes of Vengsarkar, Gavaskar didn't utter a word, forget about criticizing them! PR army would have trolled these guys mercilessly. Lord and GoldenSun 1 1
bowl_out Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 9 hours ago, Gollum said: “What is important is playing for India, and if you are unfit, then don’t play at all. He had a gap of almost seven-eight days after the first Test match but still was not included for the second Test, which was not acceptable. Maybe it was acceptable for Agarkar and Gambhir,” Vengsarkar told Revsportz. How hard is it for him to understand that it was not about the gap between the 1st and 2nd test, but the gap between the 2nd and the 3rd. Given his injury concern, TM decided to play him only for one of the two games, and they decided to go with Lord's. Same thing will happen next. He will likely play the 4th test, but sit out for the 5th Lord and Gollum 2
coffee_rules Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 8 hours ago, New guy said: We don't know how to handle fast bowlers and Vengserkar is no different in his mentality. This. Deniis Lillee, Imran Khan, Brett Lee, Hadlee all picked tests, venues and extended careers. Why not extend the same logic to Bumrah? Vengsarkar is clueless how taxing fast bowling is. Srinath huffed and puffed to make it to 10 years .. Kapil Dev could play for long as he turned it a low medium fast after his knee surgery GoldenSun and singhvivek141 2
R!TTER Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 hour ago, bowl_out said: Yeah, best is run him to the ground like what Rohit did to him in Sydney. The * are you talking about? He ran him into ground back at home & the 4 tests before Sydney! Sydney was the shortest test that series IIRC. 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: None of these @sshats had the balls to say anything when Kohli and Rohit skipped series, and picked and chose when they would play. In fact they skipped warm up games despite not playing the previous series and coming back from their long vacations. Unlike you I don't have opportunistic dementia old man. I have been highly critical of BRat since forever, even during his golden run in 2018 - I constantly pointed out how we'd skip key practice games in SA, due to his wedding, then Eng as well. He also threw in an in form KL/Rahane out of the team for no reason to bring in thigh slapper(opener) & RGS in the middle order for no *ing reason with disastrous consequences! You don't remember that, or any of the dumb*s here? I said back then as well that having (job)security around your position was critical to good/consistent performances. That *er literally destroyed our middle order which was doing fairly well in 2016-17 albeit at home. RGS was no better and I was never a fan of this playing on "raging turners" approach at home, unlike half the sub 20 hormonal bottle jobs here.
R!TTER Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 4 hours ago, New guy said: Why does England rest Archer so much and not whind about him missing matches? Does Archer sit out bowling in the second innings this often
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