Agarkar: Pandya isn't ready to be third seamer yet

[SK_IH]

Agarkar talking sense once again. Pandya is not a 3rd seamer at all ,you dont expect him to bowll his full quota in t20s,lets alone odi cricket .Why is this team managment forcing something he isnt capable of?

 

Source: Cricinfo

 

[Laaloo]

Agarkar the voice of reason. Pandya needs to concentrate on cricket rather than his hairstyles. He hasn't achieved anything yet.

[Texan]

Well if he plays Tests in SA, he would be the 4th seamer. The first 3 could be Bhuvi, Shami and Bumrah. I think Pandya could be a handy 4th seam bowling option. 

[SK_IH]

11 minutes ago, Texan said:

Well if he plays Tests in SA, he would be the 4th seamer. The first 3 could be Bhuvi, Shami and Bumrah. I think Pandya could be a handy 4th seam bowling option. 

talking about odis

[Trichromatic]

Pandya's cricketing career and treatment gives a feeling that he has already hit multiple 100s and taken many 5-fers. When actually he has done nothing so far at any level of cricket. 1 century and 17 fifties in 160 (FC, List A, T20s) games, to go with 1 5-fer and 0 4 wicket haul at any level.

[Silva]

Pandya  playing the role of 5th bowling all rounder. The same role jadeja and yuvi before him. Those 2 never bowled at the death or with the new ball so its a bit unfair to expect pandya to so even if he bowls pace rather than spin.  That responsibilty should be on the 4 specialist bowlers who are in the team purly based on their bowling. 

 

I am not sure why it is manditory for india to pick 2 spinners regardless of pitch but if thats the case then they should just replace Pandya with his brother or get another spin bowling all rounder because I dont think its possible to win a big tournament without 3 specialist seam bowlers. 

[beetle]

58 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Pandya's cricketing career and treatment gives a feeling that he has already hit multiple 100s and taken many 5-fers. When actually he has done nothing so far at any level of cricket. 1 century and 17 fifties in 160 (FC, List A, T20s) games, to go with 1 5-fer and 0 4 wicket haul at any level.

I hate the rockstar treatment he gets from the media.

I do feel he has the maturity to not get effected by it now but the same media will use the 'rockstar' image to rub his face in mud if he fails for sometime.

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, beetle said:

I hate the rockstar treatment he gets from the media.

I do feel he has the maturity to not get effected by it now but the same media will use the 'rockstar' image to rub his face in mud if he fails for sometime.

I hate his hairstyle. So annoying  

[wanted_desi]

Washington Sundar is going to replace him sooner or later from looks of it. 

[bowl_out]

9 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

Washington Sundar is going to replace him sooner or later from looks of it. 

When 3 big overseas tours are coming next year? No way

[raki05]

2 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Agarkar talking sense once again. Pandya is not a 3rd seamer at all ,you dont expect him to bowll his full quota in t20s,lets alone odi cricket .Why is this team managment forcing something he isnt capable of?

 

Source: Cricinfo

 

When did he see 3 seamer played in India . India always played with 2 fast+2spin bowler and than 5th was makeshift all-rounders, Pandya is also 5th makeshift bowler if anyone assume him as a 3rd seamer that's not correct.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Wow, who told u to think of him as 3rd seamer.......Pandya comes with very less domestic exp and thats why time n again its mention not to have much expectation from him

[Trichromatic]

48 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Wow, who told u to think of him as 3rd seamer.......Pandya comes with very less domestic exp and thats why time n again its mention not to have much expectation from him

At some point team will have to be clear about expectations from him. Somewhere down the line his bowling will be under scrutiny and lack of wickets will be questioned. He won't be able to continue as bowler who just gets thrashed every now and then picking up 1 wicket every 2nd match in ODIs and 1 in tests. If batting is his forte then he won't manage with 20s and 30s.

[mancalledsting]

The thing is that's he has got out some of the best batsmen which makes you think he has potential ...Steve smith, d Warner, Kane Williamson

[beetle]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Wow, who told u to think of him as 3rd seamer.......Pandya comes with very less domestic exp and thats why time n again its mention not to have much expectation from him

What does ' not have much expectation from him ' mean ? 

He is a part of the national team and not a quota player.If he got the place in the team as the much needed pacer allrounder, then he has to fulfil that role.

The player has to fit the role and not the team lowering expectation from the player keep him in the team.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2017 by beetle

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

At some point team will have to be clear about expectations from him. Somewhere down the line his bowling will be under scrutiny and lack of wickets will be questioned. He won't be able to continue as bowler who just gets thrashed every now and then picking up 1 wicket every 2nd match in ODIs and 1 in tests. If batting is his forte then he won't manage with 20s and 30s.

At some point but  as of now , we all knew while drafting him that his grooming is happening at international level which he missed at domestic circuit. To be honest he has done really really well.........but as of now i feel the expectation among people are to high from him. 

Lets not forget he is the best option we have in his role

Again he doesnt have to continue as bowler or batsman he does both jobs- as of now expectation shud be bits n pieces with occasional brilliance. 

Criticism on his batting- well on such pitches till date dhawan , rohit cnt score why to go after pandya 

About bowling- he has improved with time a lot and he will keep on improving and lets not forget he has been bowling on indian pitches for long 

21 minutes ago, beetle said:

What does ' not have much expectation from him ' mean ? 

He is a part of the national team and not a quota player.If he got the place in the team as the much needed pacer allrounder, then he has to fulfil that role.

The player has to fit the role and not the team lowering expectation from the player keep him in the team.

 

 

U have separate each case from other , u cant treat raina , rohit , rahane with pandya.....all of them came after proving a lot in domestic and having that experience also. Pandya lacks it and the reason was coz we were in need for someone like him. 

I dnt understand the complain against pandya- if ull look at his career in detail he has performed so many times. Occasional failures are there with everyone. 

As of now there is no better option then him so their is no question in regds to his place. Cricket is no easy game every adjusment takes months and years , things dnt happen overnight. 

He ll become a better a batsman with time and same with his bowling but thats needs a lot of pateince

 

We keep talking about getting youngsters in indian but we have 0 patience, with youngsters a lot of pateince is needed. 

[beetle]

His lack of domestic experience should not be an excuse.

Grooming should be done in domestic and team A matches ....not in the national team.

I am a fan of his too but I don't believe anyone should get a 'lower expectation ' card for any reason'.

 

8He should not be seen as the only solution. The best way to groom is to provide competition for the team slot. Get a few more guys in the reckoning and everyone will raise the expectations on their own.

 

 

 

[RAZPOR]

He was never supposed to be 3 rd seamer,whats the big revelation here ???

 

Is stokes the third seamer??

No

 

Allrounders arent supposed to be bowling as the third option.

[Khota]

Need to wait another 50 years for allrounders. Maybe they dont exist.

[renjith]

we should pick a specialist third seamer instead of 2 spinners on seamer friendly wickets like yesterday.