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1 hour ago, FischerTal said:

Oh man!!! No comments. Damn I only go to TOi for the comment section.

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15 hours ago, don_corleone840 said:

When you have government who does not know how to take economy on growth path, meet aspirations of educated youth, educate vast majority of uneducated and make economy comparable to the best in the world, you keep on doing these kind of destructive things to appear to be doing something like demo, botched up GST,Kashmir. When you have incompetent government its starts competing with weak neighbours instead of Norway and Luxembourg. Its government of illterates by illiterates in cow belt.

Internet has played a powerful role in this, before social media most were unaware of graphic details regarding invasions from Muslim kings in the past. Now with whatsapp and etc. you can spread atrocities committed by Aurangzeb and etc. which in turn creates a sense of inferiority complex of being 'dhimmi victims'. Hence Modi is the symbol of an empowered India giving a strong reply to a millennia of invasions.

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Noticed in a area which was has a sizeable number of minority people, a stall is set up wherein one can fill a form opposing the CAA and NRC. Just like a online petition I suspect it could be paper forms used to gather objections towards the two acts.

 

I guess both acts are in effect and the objection isn't going to lead to withdrawal. But the dynasty politicians will use the minority in whatever way they possibly can, even though it is a waste of time filling the forms.

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On 1/9/2020 at 11:59 PM, Nikhil_cric said:

My 2 cents. CAA is simply another failure of this current administration which has managed to alienate even more folks for absolutely nothing. 

Instead of introducing this stupid bill, they could have simply ensured that persecuted religious minorities from BD and Pakistan get citizenship without introducing a law that specifically does not mention Muslims. 

 

It was anyway what GOI was doing with the ratio of Hindus getting citizenship to that of Muslims bring ridiculously high. Nobody was complaining then. What was the need for this? 

CAA doesn't mention Muslims anywhere. It only mentions minorities of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh.

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1 hour ago, EnterTheVoid said:

You can't be a secular state if you follow a Nationalist agenda - Sorry, pick one. You can't be both at the same time.

 

If you identify yourself as a Nationalist, that's fine. Don't cry when India's "secular" credentials are questioned.

Every state In the west, you consider secular  is infested with hypocritical policies like favoring Christian refugees over others. India is a plural state not a western secular state, secularism was introduced in our constitution during emergency in 1975. We believe in mutual respect and equality of all religions. Unlike, the western countries where Christianity is supreme but other religions are tolerated merely.

 

Every western state has a nationalist agenda, look it up.

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On 1/12/2020 at 11:34 AM, randomGuy said:

Great

Not just Hindus, I think every Muslim from India and Pakistan should listen to him. Such a simple man and such a nice human being. Hats off to him and his views. True Gandhian.

 

:hatsoff:

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20 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Every state In the west, you consider secular  is infested with hypocritical policies like favoring Christian refugees over others. India is a plural state not a western secular state, secularism was introduced in our constitution during emergency in 1975. We believe in mutual respect and equality of all religions. Unlike, the western countries where Christianity is supreme but other religions are tolerated merely.

 

Every western state has a nationalist agenda, look it up.

What does any other country in the West, or anywhere else for that matter, have to do with India?

 

You have Hindu Nationalist politicians spreading Hindutva ideologies with Hindu Nationalist policies. This isn't even up for discussion, they openly admit it themselves.

 

The Bolded part is laughable at best, dishonest at worst. "Equality For all" - Seriously? With people like Yogi Adityanath, sure, sure.

 

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18 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said:

What does any other country in the West, or anywhere else for that matter, have to do with India?

Because the Indian media looks west for approval on internal matters, they write stuff on WaPo, NYT, NZHerald etc, that is lapped up by people like you and make opinions. Hence, I am pointing out that India has not done anything new that west has not already done.

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You have Hindu Nationalist politicians spreading Hindutva ideologies with Hindu Nationalist policies. This isn't even up for discussion, they openly admit it themselves.

That does not mean India is out to be come a Hindu rashtra with all other religions becoming second class. India needs a national grand narrative linked to Indic civilizational roots with a modern outlook. Why is nationalism considered bad? It lead to wars in the 20th century, but the new kind of Nationalism is about being anti-global, protectionist and reviving it's ancient cultural roots. We praise China for doing the same with their civilization. This narrative of western secular concept with minority appeasement and majority shaming will not work. That has spoilt India's image elsewhere. 

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The Bolded part is laughable at best, dishonest at worst. "Equality For all" - Seriously? With people like Yogi Adityanath, sure, sure.

 

There is something in letter and something part of a narrative. Yes, Hinduism doesn't preach (in any text) that other religions are committing sin by not following their religion. We say all lead to the same truth.  You cite Yogi, argue with data and facts. Has he stopped any government schemes that are specifically for minorities? Has any mosque in UP stopped playing Azaan 5 times a day or a church stopped their hourly/periodic bells? If equality means minority appeasement, then yes, he has stopped the charade followed by other CMs of UP.  He doesn't host iftars or wear skull caps, but goes to perform Ganga aartis. It is a personal choice and he doesn't have to keep appearences for media to get praised that he is secular.

 

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