vishalvirsingh Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Soumo said: Saha scored a 50 not 100 and against fast bowling pant is good but with his indifferent form and most importantly fitness saha should get the nod. you are right...i got it wrong, saha scored a 50. today rishabh scored a rapid 100 and kind of picked himself for the test as normally any batsman who scores a ton is not asked to be on bench. i think rshabh will play. but starc cummin hazzel wood and may be pattinson woud be a much dangerous attack. in this SA 11 attack only sutherland looked a bit fast, all others looked second grade and definitely not international bowlers. in T20 , i liked the left arm fast Sams , he looked fast. Green was more of an allrunder and not a genuine fast bowler. apart from starc hazel pattinson and cummins ..i found sutherland and Sams ( left arm quick) as good fast bowlers. all others were below par and not good enough to be best 3 pacers of the coulntry. where as siraj and saini are as good as Umesh if not better so our 4th and 5th pacers are quite close to the third pacer though first two are premier fast bowlers. point i want to make once starc and cummins hang up their boots , they may loose a bit of teeth as other bowlers are even inferior to Hazelwood. Link to comment
Soumo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, nitinbwj said: Why the hell are we still batting.No way in hell they are going to chase over 350.300 was enough.. This is a practice match and we have long 4 test coming up , actually we should bat till the 2nd seosen and then unleash our pacers for short spells. There is no need to tire out the bowlers for a practice match and winning doesn't matter in these games. Actually few bowlers should have a hit in middle because in these conditions runs from tail means a lot express bowling 1 Link to comment
Serpico Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: point i want to make once starc and cummins hang up their boots , they may loose a bit of teeth as other bowlers are even inferior to Hazelwood. Cummins still got another 6-7 yrs in him. That's a long time to find another quality fast bowler. Remember Cummins debuted at 18 and took a fifer so it's not impossible to find another great pacer in the meantime Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What an innings from Pant Pure carnage. Border was joking in the last over if Pant can score a hundred in the last over and it actually happened Bat for an hour or so and make them chase leather. I want to see the coach come out and field Getting Burns and Harris cheaply will be another boost since one of them will be playing in Adelaide Mosher, Laaloo, Adamant and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) I am probably Saha's biggest fan here. Still I want TM to reward merit, if Saha starts in the XI in any of the matches I will be very very annoyed (unless Pant is ruled out cos of injury). Even at home against Eng I want Pant to start, team can't afford to carry a 37 yo esp when you have such a tremendous prospect as his successor. Saha hasn't been lucky, blocked till 2014 and then his injury mismanaged by NCA/BCCI dolts, sandwiched between Dhoni and Pant (future great), but he had a pretty decent career and was integral part of a #1 test side. Hope he has a couple of good seasons in IPL. Edited December 12, 2020 by Gollum sandsaims, express bowling, Real McCoy and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gollum said: I am probably Saha's biggest fan here. Still I want TM to reward merit, if Saha starts in the XI in any of the matches I will be very very annoyed (unless Pant is ruled out cos of injury). Even at home against Eng I want Pant to start, team can't afford to carry a 37 yo esp when you have such a tremendous prospect as his successor. Saha hasn't been lucky, blocked till 2014 and then his injury mismanaged by NCA/BCCI dolts, sandwiched between Dhoni and Pant (future great), but he had a pretty decent career and was integral part of a #1 test side. Hope he has a couple of good seasons in IPL. Also Pant hasn't put a foot wrong in this warm up game. He has taken the catches and scored. Should be picked but you never know with rat Mosher, beetle, sandsaims and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Soumo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: you are right...i got it wrong, saha scored a 50. today rishabh scored a rapid 100 and kind of picked himself for the test as normally any batsman who scores a ton is not asked to be on bench. i think rshabh will play. but starc cummin hazzel wood and may be pattinson woud be a much dangerous attack. in this SA 11 attack only sutherland looked a bit fast, all others looked second grade and definitely not international bowlers. in T20 , i liked the left arm fast Sams , he looked fast. Green was more of an allrunder and not a genuine fast bowler. apart from starc hazel pattinson and cummins ..i found sutherland and Sams ( left arm quick) as good fast bowlers. all others were below par and not good enough to be best 3 pacers of the coulntry. where as siraj and saini are as good as Umesh if not better so our 4th and 5th pacers are quite close to the third pacer though first two are premier fast bowlers. point i want to make once starc and cummins hang up their boots , they may loose a bit of teeth as other bowlers are even inferior to Hazelwood. Yeah he did batted well and I absolutely love to see pant as a wicket keeper batsman for the test team but my only worry is his fitness has gone down in last couple of years and if he can maintain his stamina through the test matches that would be a huge boost for the line up. Coming to the australian bowlers they will always have good bowlers coming through their ranks such is there nature of of domestic structure. There was a time in between 2009 and 2014 they didn't had many express pace bowler except johnson but they had very skilled bowlers like siddle, hilfenhus, Bollinger and few others they were very genuine wicket taking bowlers without the extrapace that they have now so I don't think it's going to be ever a problem for them to produce a good pace bowlers and there history supports that. Edited December 12, 2020 by Soumo Link to comment
shychipmunk Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: today rishabh scored a rapid 100 and kind of picked himself for the test as normally any batsman who scores a ton is not asked to be on bench. i think rshabh will play. Did you forget Karun Nair who was benched after a 300 in a test match against a strong side like England ! express bowling 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Vickydev, express bowling, saik and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Soumo said: This is a practice match and we have long 4 test coming up , actually we should bat till the 2nd seosen and then unleash our pacers for short spells. There is no need to tire out the bowlers for a practice match and winning doesn't matter in these games. Actually few bowlers should have a hit in middle because in these conditions runs from tail means a lot Yes ... I hope we bat for atleast 1 more session. We need to keep Bumrah and Shami fresh for the test match on the 17th. They should not bowl more than 6 overs each tomorrow. Soumo and Mosher 2 Link to comment
neel roy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Saini actually bowled well. With his bouncers and back of length bowling he can be our kyle jamieson like nz has. Handful for tailenders.. indias perennial problem.. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mosher said: special player Laaloo, Mosher and beetle 1 2 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Saha should not even be on this tour based on Pants previous tour. express bowling 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: Saha should not even be on this tour based on Pants previous tour. Soon expecting an article quoting anonymous sources on Pant's poor discipline and attitude. They will do everything possible to break him. VT87, raki05, tweaker and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: Saha should not even be on this tour based on Pants previous tour. Who should have been 2nd keeper then? Rahul? Samson and Ishan don't even keep in IPL and Bharat hasn't done anything of note, nor is he an earmarked player. Link to comment
saik Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Pant should be part of our T20 squad also. He should open instead of Dhawan. raki05, beetle, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gollum said: Who should have been 2nd keeper then? Rahul? Samson and Ishan don't even keep in IPL and Bharat hasn't done anything of note, nor is he an earmarked player. Bharat has already been part of our Test team as cover for Saha and for Pant in ODIs. Has been the main keeper for India A tours (unofficial tests) for a couple of years now. He's the 3rd best keeper for Tests now and would become number 2 after Saha's retirement. Ultimately Pant will be all format wk-batsman with Samson/Ishan as number 2. Don't see this Rahul as keeper experiment lasting for too long beetle and Gollum 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Pant looks like he lost a little bit of weight. express bowling, Mosher and beetle 3 Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 So Saini and Pant have picked themselves. Not much to discuss but then there is our dear Rat and Bewda. raki05 and tweaker 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Gollum said: I am probably Saha's biggest fan here. Still I want TM to reward merit, if Saha starts in the XI in any of the matches I will be very very annoyed (unless Pant is ruled out cos of injury). Even at home against Eng I want Pant to start, team can't afford to carry a 37 yo esp when you have such a tremendous prospect as his successor. Saha hasn't been lucky, blocked till 2014 and then his injury mismanaged by NCA/BCCI dolts, sandwiched between Dhoni and Pant (future great), but he had a pretty decent career and was integral part of a #1 test side. Hope he has a couple of good seasons in IPL. I honestly believe he is the best pure keeper amoung all three. Batting obviously no comparison Dhoni and Pant are in different league. express bowling and raki05 2 Link to comment
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