maniac Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 Ashwin usually starts of well with the ball overseas and tapers off On the other hand, Jadeja even though he doesn’t produce those threatening spells like Ashwin does , he is more consistent and reliable. His batting has improved tremendously in the last 12-18 months So even if one of them has a leaner bowling/batting form, just persist with them as they both can be match winners on their day if they get it right. About time we looked at multi dimensional cricketers like England. Don’t think they will be any more or less effective with the bat than the Vihari, Rahane,Shaw, Saha, Pant, Aggarwal etc in these conditions. They will in fact give us an excellent extra bowling option. Hell Raiser and Gollum 2
Gollum Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Also because Bumrah has been overworked so early, 21 overs at full intensity in 5.5 hours is unacceptable. Archer suffered when Root used him like that in the Ashes. I doubt Siraj/Saini/Umesh will give control to the skipper like even Shami, forget Ishant. That may tempt him to overbowl Bumrah, someone like Jaddu can fill in with economical overs then, and not like he is a part-timer, with pressure at the other end he can also chip away their batting unit in these conditions, easily 15-20 overs per day at 2.5 rpo and a wicket, maybe more. Also will do better with the bat than some of our specialists. Please Jaddu get fit ASAP Edited December 19, 2020 by Gollum
bowl_out Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 Play Pant at 6, Jadeja at 7 and Ashwin at 8. Playing XI for the 2nd test should be: Mayank Gill Pujara Rahul Rahane Pant Jadeja Ashwin Saini Siraj Bumrah
Laaloo Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 Yup get gill in for shaw rahul for kohli pant for saha jadeja for vihari saini for shami Sean Bradley 1
Tibarn Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 Is Vihari injured? Kohli was talking him up before the series, saying he expects big things from him this series. I think Vihari may be elevated to 4/5. If we want to play both Ash/Jaddu then the team would be something like: Shaw Mayank Che Vihari/Rahane Rahane/Vihari Jadeja Ashwin Pant/Saha Bumrah Umesh Saini/Siraj I think Ash's batting has declined a lot though. I would rather just give Gill a debut in the lower order.
R!TTER Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Yes, can't believe how bad it's been over the last few years! It's like he's just given up on it, even tailender Lyon is a better bat than him & a much better fielder
asterix Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Need more seasoned players in the team. Doesn’t matter if they are T20 format or not. Need attacking mentality players and not timid, bogged down types. Test cricket is not Pujara Rahane types who effing gets bogged down and no substantial outcome.
Norman Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 If i'm not wrong, Iyer is with the Test squad right now. So this is the team i'd play if I was hahane..... Mayank Pujara Rahane Iyer Gill Pant Jadeja Ashwin Siraj Saini Bumrah After we inevitable lose, replace the worst two specialist batters with KL and Rohit....do want matter if hahane is one of them. Most likely he'll be. Make Rohit the captain.
Lone Wolf Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Jadeja is unlikely to be fit I think.. Hamstring injuries take time. He won't be available till Gabba Test I guess. Selectors should send a replacement.. A left handed batsman would be ideal. No Shreyas Iyer. For next game Mayank Gill Pujara KLR Rahane (unfortunately) Pant Vihari Ashwin Siraj Bumrah Umesh/Saini
Majestic Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Makes sense to persist with both Ash and Jaddu
Stan AF Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) At this rate we have to play Pant/Pandya/Jadeja and ashwin from #5-8. Left and right combos through and throughout. This should be the middle and lower middle order for the future. You can add 3 fast bowlers in the mix and still have 7-8 batsmen in the mix(11). This is the only way forward. Edited December 20, 2020 by Stan AF
kubrickian Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Two spinners are useless in Aus conditions. Need at least 3 seamers. Bring in Siraj for Shami. Jadeja can replace Ashwin if we need a bit more batting down the order. Ashwin has regressed as a batsman, he used to bat quite well in overseas conditions, of late he has become a typical tailender.
ash Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, kubrickian said: Two spinners are useless in Aus conditions. Need at least 3 seamers. Bring in Siraj for Shami. Jadeja can replace Ashwin if we need a bit more batting down the order. Ashwin has regressed as a batsman, he used to bat quite well in overseas conditions, of late he has become a typical tailender. What nonsense is this. If Australian batting collapsed would they replace Lyon with Agar ?
Gollum Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kubrickian said: Two spinners are useless in Aus conditions. Need at least 3 seamers. Bring in Siraj for Shami. Jadeja can replace Ashwin if we need a bit more batting down the order. Ashwin has regressed as a batsman, he used to bat quite well in overseas conditions, of late he has become a typical tailender. We are running out of players now, Bumrah is overworked, need more LHBs, have to look at present form (Ashwin's bowling with the pink ball). 2 rookie quicks will be a huge risk and Umesh leaks runs like crazy, Ashwin-Jaddu (if fit) looks like a forced move now tbh, esp for MCG and SCG. If we had our first choice pace attack in Bumrah/Ishant/Shami sure 4 bowlers would have done the job but not with Bumrah + 2 out of Umesh/Siraj/Saini. Edited December 20, 2020 by Gollum
Prabhdeep Singh Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 From 3rd Test Team should be S Gill R Sharma C Pujara KL Rahul A Rahane R Pant R Jadeja R Ashwin U Yadav J Bumrah M Siraj This team more solid with experience.
ash Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Now that Jaddu has shown his batting skills, let us stop this chop and change overseas and play them together going forward.. Consider Jaddu as a batting all-rounder who can chip in with couple of wickets and some quiet overs and Ashwin as a bowling all-rounder who can score 15-20 minimum
neel roy Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 In any overseas test unless the pitch is pancake Jadeja will always come to play in 3rd and 4th innings as his strength is turning and also not turning the ball from same spot. Also having a left hander in lower middle order always helps as after 6/7 overs opposition bowlers gets frustrated when they cant take wickets and have to change angle after every few balls for LHB .. actually the biggest sufferer has been India when they have bowled to left handers.. Sam Curran in England series.. if you watch highlights you can clearly see Shami being frustrated with singles which Curran was taking and he had to change angles.. and when he tried to ball the sucker ball he was being smashed for 4.. Jadeja did same this test
Gollum Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Hope to see them play together in England. Unless it is a Lord's 2018 kind of pitch.
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