Best fast-medium pace bowlers of all time in order of merit?

[Harsh Thakor]

This is my list in order of merit of the best fast-medium pace bowlers of all time

 

1.Glen Mcgrath-Record speaks for itself with supreme intelligence and ability to read opponents.noone equalled his control

 

 

 

 

2.Alec Bedser-More penetrative than anyone on seaming tops.Great strike rate for his time.

 

 

 

3.Fazal Mahmood -As lethal as anyone in his day who was responsible for Pakistan winning their first test in England at the Oval in 1954.Control in the Ray Lindwall class.In the mpdern era may well have bagged 500 scalps.

 

 

 

 

4.Mohammad Asif -In recent times very rarely seen such depth of control and movement by fast -medium bowler.Antogonised the likes of even Sachin Tendulkar.or Rahul Dravid.Master in making a ball move and hold or straighten.

 

 

 

5.Kapil Dev-Had  he played for England or Australia  may have been the greatest wicket taker of all time.What a phenomenal achievement capturing so many scalps on flat pancakes.Few ever had a better oustwinger or bowled with more of  a heart.

 

 

 

6.Ian Botham-The most intelligent bowler I have ever seen who at his best was as god as anyone mastering the oustwinger and inswinger.Sadly lost form and past his best from 1984.

 

 

 

7.James Anderson -One of the cleverest bowlers of the modern era able to adapt to any conditions.Also a great trier who has won many  a match for England.Statistically a giant in term sof aggregate.

 

 

 

8.Shaun Pollock-In terms of average close to the very top.Msatered use of the crease and often wa seven more uncomfortable than partner Alan Donald.Could extricate pace from an even slow surface like at Adelaide in 1997-98 or inPkaistan eralier that yaer when he won game for his team ,who were defending a mere 146 run sin the 4th innings.

 

 

 

9.Terry Alderman-In Engalnd in 1981 and 1989 as good as anyone when he capture 42 and 41 wickets respectively.Few eve exploited the Englsih conditions better .Often caused great problem sfor Geoff Boycott as well as Graham Gooch on that 1981  tour.Swng the ball in and out deceptively.

 

 

 

 

10.Bob Massie-His 16 wickets at Lords in 1972 was pace bowling art at its supreme height.A major ingredient of Ian Chappell's budding champions

 

 

 

 

11.Sarfraz Naawaz-Statistics do not do justice to this stalwart who was often a clone of Richard Hadlee.Pioneered the art of rverse swing teaching the great Imran it's art.On his day could turn games as much as anyone like when capturing 7 wickets for one run at Melbourne in 1978-79.In my view at times could be as lethal as even Imran and arguably and even more intelligent bowler.

 

 

 

 

12.Jaggaval Srinath/Vernon Philanderer-On his day Srinath could be as explosive as the very quickest like when taking 8-86 v Pakistan at Kolkata in 1999.His bounce and movement could be unplayable at times.Vernon Philanderer 's could eclipse the best of fast bowlers on his day moving the ball all around the place.

Edited February 16, 2021 by Harsh Thakor

[Serpico]

Was hadlee express pace? I thought he became top bowler after cutting down pace and developed more control. What about Imran?

[Forward Defence]

Javagal Srinath was pretty quick in his prime. Atleast spell his name properly. Chamin de Vaas sounds like a Dutch name. And Vernon is certainly no Philanderer.

[Harsh Thakor]

4 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Was hadlee express pace? I thought he became top bowler after cutting down pace and developed more control. What about Imran?

Considered fast-around 140-145kph.Imran was on average around 145kmp or 90m.p.h.Generally both not considered fast medium.Imran ofcourse quicker.

[express bowling]

Javagal Srinath bowled quite a few 140 k to 150 k spells in his first 7 years.

 

Bowled a fastest of 157 kph in 1996-97.

 

Was the 2nd quickest pacer in the 1999 World Cup with a fastest of 149.7 kph.

 

Was way way faster than anyone else in the above list.

Edited February 16, 2021 by express bowling

[express bowling]

16 minutes ago, Harsh Thakor said:

Considered fast-around 140-145kph.Imran was on average around 145kmp or 90m.p.h.Generally both not considered fast medium.Imran ofcourse quicker.

 

 

Speeds weren't recorded with any regularity when they played. 

 

No one knows their regular speeds day in and day out.

 

Imran bowled a quickest of 139.7 kph in the 1979 competition.  Was never clocked at 145 kph even as his fastest speed, forget about average speed.

 

Hadlee bowled a fastest of 129.8 kph in the 1979 competition. 

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283875.html

Edited February 16, 2021 by express bowling

[chewy]

Wasim Akram, McGrath and Gillespie

 

Unfortunately two of the three not on the list.

 

Looking for accuracy and long spells from fast medium guys

[SK_IH]

You have the nerve of adding that charsi Asif in the reckoning of any all time list. That Charsi didn't play enough cricket to merit even a discussion.

On topic, Glenn McGrath, the greatest defensive bowler in the history of cricket @rkt.india

[Jay]

Would you kindly just be quiet, stop posting and go back to the forum you belong too. That would be greatly appreciated. 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Harsh Thakor said:

Considered fast-around 140-145kph.Imran was on average around 145kmp or 90m.p.h.Generally both not considered fast medium.Imran ofcourse quicker.

No Pakistani barring shoaibd bowled 140 plus on average. 

 

145 average maybe for one series. 

 

Faulty speed guns may indicate 140 plus in Pakistan perhaps. 

[Majestic]

Philander has 16 wickets in 10 tests in Asia. Broad has done better than Philander in Asia. 

[Sandeep99]

Where's Kaali Dal Im the Dim the ultimate trundler who took many cheap wickets with home umpires in place?

[Ankit_sharma03]

Mcgrath mcgrath 

[Majestic]

26 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

Where's Kaali Dal Im the Dim the ultimate trundler who took many cheap wickets with home umpires in place?

ABDUL QADIR?? He is a part time spinner, not trundler.

 

He took plenty of home wickets thanks to home umpires and used to get smashed away from home and his fans used to say, don't forget the magician, artistic Abdul Qadir was. He was the Warne before Warne came lol.

Edited February 16, 2021 by Majestic

[Tattieboy]

5 hours ago, Serpico said:

Was hadlee express pace? I thought he became top bowler after cutting down pace and developed more control. What about Imran?

He was never " express pace " he tinkered with his action and thought more about it .

[express bowling]

Roger Binny and Vernon Philander were not fast medium.

 

They were genuine medium pacers.

[Vilander]

Can someone create best medium pacer with bottle caps and list 

 

imran

wasim 

waqar pls

[Vilander]

7 hours ago, Harsh Thakor said:

Considered fast-around 140-145kph.Imran was on average around 145kmp or 90m.p.h.Generally both not considered fast medium.Imran ofcourse quicker.

Imran was trundler wasim was medium fast war was fast medium, with bottle caps. 

[zen]

From those in the poll, the 5: 

 

McGrath (control)

Anderson (swing)

Srinath (pace)

Pollock (AR batting at #7)

Vaas (left arm option)

 

Edited February 16, 2021 by zen

[ShoonyaSifar]

Number 3 and 4 

 

Might as well have this as your ranking

1. Abbas

2. Aaqib Javed

3. Fazal

4. Asif

5. Gul

6. Riaz

7. Hassan Ali

8. Faheem Ashraf

9. Anwar Ali

10. Azhar Mahmood