coffee_rules Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Yoda-esque said: 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Did Obama apologize for Slavery when he became President? But but hindus are supposed to be subservient and apologize to everyone,didn't you know? 700 years of Islamic rule, 200 years of Colonial rule, 60+ years of Congress rule, But Modi has to fix it all in 7 years, otherwise he is fascist, gobar, gaumutra, Nationalist and we are all doomed. dial_100, beetle and Laaloo 2 1
donkey Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tibarn said: Neither India nor Modi owe any apology. Let Congress apologize for slaughtering Sikhs and Khalistanis apologize for starting terrorism and slaughtering Hindus. I believe Congress already apologized to Sikhs and nation last time they were in power. At this point the whole event is propped up to demonize India and Hindus on random occassions. Meanwhile Air India mastermind is revered as a martyr in North America/UK Gurudwaras so I don't believe a khalistani apology is in order anytime soon. Edited June 9, 2021 by donkey Typo Tibarn 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Did Obama apologize for Slavery when he became President? No. Why? Should India always follow America? Modi would not apologise as a BJP rep or as an individual. He would do so in his capacity as the head of govt. If it is true that the previous Cong govt has already done it as an official GoI apology, I retract my stance. Edited June 8, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict Vilander 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 ^^ BTW, America needs to do much much much more than just apologise. They brutally oppressed (there really are no words to describe how badly - treated them like non-human animals) African-Americans for 250 years. Then, segregated them for another 100 years, treating them as 3rd class people. Only since 1964 has there been a reluctant agreement that they are humans too. They are still being subjugated in many ways in many states. So, a mere apology is just the first brick of a huge building of justice that must be laid. And it may never be enough. Vilander 1
Khota Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: 700 years of Islamic rule, 200 years of Colonial rule, 60+ years of Congress rule, But Modi has to fix it all in 7 years, otherwise he is fascist, gobar, gaumutra, Nationalist and we are all doomed. Noone has fix in 7 years but the point is you need to be heading in right direction. There is incompetence in this cabinet. This was their Mission Accomplished moment.
Vilander Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Tibarn said: Neither India nor Modi owe any apology. Let Congress apologize for slaughtering Sikhs and Khalistanis apologize for starting terrorism and slaughtering Hindus. Modi of course does not owe an apology and Indians don't either. But India the nation does. And a Modi the leader will become a stateman when he reconciles the estranged. Congress was made of Indian people. Terrorists must get punished they can't get away with apologies.
Vilander Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: ^^ BTW, America needs to do much much much more than just apologise. They brutally oppressed (there really are no words to describe how badly - treated them like non-human animals) African-Americans for 250 years. Then, segregated them for another 100 years, treating them as 3rd class people. Only since 1964 has there been a reluctant agreement that they are humans too. They are still being subjugated in many ways in many states. So, a mere apology is just the first brick of a huge building of justice that must be laid. And it may never be enough. The amount of savagery that 'harmless friendly' Canadian European settlers did to the native kids the cruelty, man there were some really heartless people in North America during those times. beetle 1
coffee_rules Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: No. Why? Should India always follow America? Modi would not apologise as a BJP rep or as an individual. He would do so in his capacity as the head of govt. If it is true that the previous Cong govt has already done it as an official GoI apology, I retract my stance. No, but usually there will be examples given of the west to virtue signal Indian leaders. Case in point: Jacinda Ardem. If she wears a head dress and visits a mosque, people in India ask why can’t Modi do the same. If Congress does all scams, why should Modi come in and apologize? Congress should do it.
beetle Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 13 hours ago, coffee_rules said: On topic, should IPL and PBKS take action on Harpreet Brar.? Not the first time . https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/we-dont-wear-turban-for-money-harpreet-brars-old-tweet-on-being-compared-with-akshay-kumar-goes-viral/751607 He acts like a fundu with unnecessary attitude. coffee_rules 1
beetle Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 9:48 AM, kepler37b said: Hindus have no common interest. Selfish as they can get. We will continue to remain as fringe political players. How can hindus have common interests when they are not considered the same. Why should the interest of SCs be the same as the ' higher' castes when they experience different forms of hinduism?The hinduism they experience is not the same so how can they have common interests . We can either accept the wrongs and correct them without trying to justify the unjustifiable or accept that all hindus are not same so they can never have common interests. coffee_rules 1
dial_100 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Hang on guys, i am looking for a perfect way to kill myself. Yeh hutiyapa mere sar se upar ja raha hai. HBS glorifies K guy. then ... hey says sorry sorry sorry, galti se ho gya. then ... MODI MUST APOLOGIZE ?? What the heck is going on here? G_B_ and coffee_rules 1 1
dial_100 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Having said that, it still hurts really bad when we think of 1984. As an Indian I would not hesitate to say Sorry to all our Sikh brothers and sisters. Whatever happened in 84 was extremely wrong and I pray for forgiveness at my individual capacity. I hope that Sikh community moves on now. We never wanted that to happen and we always wished that culprits were punished. I hate cong to the core but this is from me as an indian. You guys have no idea how many of us feel the same way for the sikh community. I sincerely feel, we should stop H vs S argument. BacktoCricaddict, G_B_ and Under_Score 1 1 1
Trichromatic Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, beetle said: How can hindus have common interests when they are not considered the same. Why should the interest of SCs be the same as the ' higher' castes when they experience different forms of hinduism?The hinduism they experience is not the same so how can they have common interests . We can either accept the wrongs and correct them without trying to justify the unjustifiable or accept that all hindus are not same so they can never have common interests. People who talk about Hindus having common interests actually want Hindus to have common hate. BacktoCricaddict, Bigg Brother and Mariyam 2 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 I don't get the sympathy for terrorists.. What about those Hindus who were killed by K terrorists in Trains buses markets in early 80's? Situation was getting worse day by day. 1984 is indeed a blot on Indian democracy. Innocents were killed but no need to apologize for killing terrorists or celebrate them. beetle and dial_100 2
neel roy Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 This is what happens in a country with 25 languages , dialects , states etc where every region and state has its own identity.. people forget how difficult it is to maintain this federalism.no other country in the world has this kind of diaspora with this much population .. closest in developed world Is switzerland where you have 3 languages spoken based on where you are: germany italian french.. england has welsh and english, canadians french and English, belgians flemish and french.. ussr had the same issue and see where it is now.. so we must not discount the fact that whichever govt is in power it is indeed a tough job to maintain an universal Unity and entity.. Norman, beetle and dial_100 3
mishra Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 8:22 AM, Under_Score said: Bcoz majority of Punjab Sikhs feel that Sikhs were betrayed by Indian politicians like Nehru.... post 1947. All this goes back during the partition. Sikhs have given maximum lives for India before & after freedom while RSS leader like Savarkar was begging for mercy from the Brits for his release. 1984 Genocide of Sikhs in India is a permanent divide....live with it. Before partition, Most were with British in fear of Muslims. They were used just as soldiers in world wars. It was when they listened to Gandi Nehuru Bose Khudiram and saw Jaliyawala Bagh massacre , things changed.
Number Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Sikhs in Punjab are happily voting for a party headed by Rajiv Gandhi's son which appoints Kamalnath as Chief minister and has Tytler as its one of key the members. Instead some supremacists use 1984 to attack India and its current govt. beetle, Laaloo, diga and 1 other 4
kepler37b Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Trichromatic said: People who talk about Hindus having common interests actually want Hindus to have common hate. Identification of the common enemy is the main part of being united.
kepler37b Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 6 hours ago, beetle said: How can hindus have common interests when they are not considered the same. Why should the interest of SCs be the same as the ' higher' castes when they experience different forms of hinduism?The hinduism they experience is not the same so how can they have common interests . We can either accept the wrongs and correct them without trying to justify the unjustifiable or accept that all hindus are not same so they can never have common interests. But they do have a common enemy.
Yoda-esque Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Sikhs in Punjab are happily voting for a party headed by Rajiv Gandhi's son which appoints Kamalnath as Chief minister and has Tytler as its one of key the members. Instead some supremacists use 1984 to attack India and its current govt. And gives gaalis to modi who respects their culture.Weirdos. Number 1
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