speedheat Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Who is this johns? Need more credible source for this news.
nikrulz Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Shastri is a better coach than most people think. He's an excellent man manager. Ditto At this level these players don't need coaching. Man-management is what matters, keeping them motivated and organizing the playing order/selection. Ravi shastri in Kohli's absence has a great track record. We have statistically done very well. AuxiliA, express bowling and Ankit_sharma03 3
Lord Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Why turn down free money I hope next one is not Dravid as long as Kohli is captain.It'll be reverse of Dravid-Chappell era
Mariyam Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, CodeOfWisden said: Virat ko kab sharam aaegi. Gabba kis muh se jaoge Kohli, sharm tum ko magar nahi aati
The Realist Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Believe it when I see it. Could just be angling for a new contract with alcohol related bonuses. nevada and Norman 1 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Gollum said: Useless he may be, but Shastri isn't the problem holding Indian cricket back. This. It was proven in Australia when VK returned. Shastri is an under-rated man-manager, IMO. His over-the-top positivity gives the team confidence when they are down. He never berated players in public (he did mention that Pant and Shaw needed to up their fitness ante, but otherwise there was never anything negative). He always talked up the team even when they were struggling. Sometimes fans didn't like that, but that is what a leader does - shield your team from public criticism. I think the players trusted him. There were never any reports of him abusing players in the dressing room or not getting along with anyone. I think the whole bewda angle was a smoke-screen. Gollum 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: I genuinely hope they get Punter somehow. Shastri came into the set up in 2014 & since then the drought for ICC trophies started. I know it isn't his entire fault but change gotta start somewhere. A Chokli & Yes man will not bring us sliverware. That being said Shastri's biggest legacy will be Australia 2021. Stuff of legends. You mean Ponting? The abusive, throw-players-under-the-bus, claim-one-tup-catches, abuse a bowler who just smashed your helmet and checked on your welfare, no sense of decency Ponting? Greg Chappell redux Ponting? No, thank you. Stay the eff away from the Ozzies. Maybe that Stephen Fleming guy would be okay. Or Mahela Jayawardene. AuxiliA, Vilander and SRT100 1 1 1
Lord Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: This. It was proven in Australia when VK returned. Shastri is an under-rated man-manager, IMO. His over-the-top positivity gives the team confidence when they are down. He never berated players in public (he did mention that Pant and Shaw needed to up their fitness ante, but otherwise there was never anything negative). He always talked up the team even when they were struggling. Sometimes fans didn't like that, but that is what a leader does - shield your team from public criticism. I think the players trusted him. There were never any reports of him abusing players in the dressing room or not getting along with anyone. I think the whole bewda angle was a smoke-screen. If hes so good ,he should be able to do well despite Kohli being there. Most of the time hes gonna be captain,so if we need a yesman,theres plenty of options Also we are under selling Rahane's role in Aus.
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Lord said: Also we are under selling Rahane's role in Aus. Agreed here. Rahane's captaincy and calm management of the team was instrumental in the legendary win. If hes so good ,he should be able to do well despite Kohli being there. Most of the time hes gonna be captain,so if we need a yesman,theres plenty of options You can only undo so much of the damage that is caused in other ways. In cricket, captain is all-powerful. Coach can only suggest, but in the end, captain takes the call. Maybe Rahane took all of RJS' suggestions and it panned out.
Lord Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Agreed here. Rahane's captaincy and calm management of the team was instrumental in the legendary win. If hes so good ,he should be able to do well despite Kohli being there. Most of the time hes gonna be captain,so if we need a yesman,theres plenty of options You can only undo so much of the damage that is caused in other ways. In cricket, captain is all-powerful. Coach can only suggest, but in the end, captain takes the call. Maybe Rahane took all of RJS' suggestions and it panned out. so basically Kohli isn't listening to him,then there isnt much for Shastri or anyone to do.
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lord said: so basically Kohli isn't listening to him,then there isnt much for Shastri or anyone to do. Who knows? One can only speculate on the dynamic there. Just the fact that, together, Shastri and Rahane brought the team to perform so well makes me think - at the very least - he is not an impediment to team success. At best, he has some really good qualities that a sensible captain can leverage.
Lord Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Who knows? One can only speculate on the dynamic there. Just the fact that, together, Shastri and Rahane brought the team to perform so well makes me think - at the very least - he is not an impediment to team success. At best, he has some really good qualities that a sensible captain can leverage. but at the moment we need someone who can hold his own with Kohli and stop him making foolish decisions.
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Lord said: but at the moment we need someone who can hold his own with Kohli and stop him making foolish decisions. True, but that's not the way the power-structure is set up in international cricket. Especially in team selection and on-field decisions, it's all captaincy. What we really need is for someone on the board to put Kohli on a tight leash. Lord 1
ShoonyaSifar Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) About time. The entire setup needs to change. After nearly 6 years of Indian coaches, maybe we should try a foreign coach this time, someone who is a hard task master. Cannot have a chilled out 'father figure' to take Rahul, Pant, Shaw, Gill, Iyer, Paddikal, Tyagi, Prasidh, Mavi, Chahar, Bishnoi to the next level in the next 18-24 months. Edited August 11, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar CodeOfWisden, Norman and Nash 3
Nash Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Ravi is about to do then BCCI should hire a real coach now. Like Gary kristen type coach who actually win us some ICC trophies with brain dead captain Kohli. Rahul Dravid can go same route as Kumble. We can't waste another 2 years and couple of more trohpies to figure out that. Hire someone and wins us something. Please. Norman, Sgattick10 and ShoonyaSifar 3
SRT100 Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 Please as Indian living in Australia, DONT GET PONITING. Dravid has Ponting easily covered in most areas of cricket, the most important being a decent human being and sportsman. CodeOfWisden and sage 1 1
sage Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, SRT100 said: Please as Indian living in Australia, DONT GET PONITING. Dravid has Ponting easily covered in most areas of cricket, the most important being a decent human being and sportsman. How does living in Australia give you a special insight into Ponting SRT100, Trichromatic and Norman 2 1
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