"I Warned Him That He Would Get Injured": Shoaib Akhtar

[vvvslaxman]

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/i-warned-him-that-he-would-get-injured-shoaib-akhtar-reveals-why-he-had-predicted-hardik-pandyas-fitness-issues-2647243

 

"I touched his (Hardik) back,   muscles were there but very lean. So I warned him that he would get injured. But he said that he has been playing a lot of cricket."

[cricketfan28]

We need akthar to coach our fast young fast bowlers , all of them look lean.

[vvvslaxman]

39 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

We need akthar to coach our fast young fast bowlers , all of them look lean.

 

His knee collapses while delivering. Agarkar  was slimmer than him. But his action was not as bad as this. He was injury free most of his career.

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

His knee collapses while delivering. Agarkar  was slimmer than him. But his action was not as bad as this. He was injury free most of his career.

 

He is knee dominant bowler,that is common for such bowlers

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

His knee collapses while delivering. Agarkar  was slimmer than him. But his action was not as bad as this. He was injury free most of his career.

 

Even Akhtar had collapsed knee. That's not the reason for his injury. I don't get what's the fuss. All fast bowlers get injured at some point in their career. Pandya still has a long career ahead of him.

[R!TTER]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pandya still has a long career ahead of him.

Needs citation 

[vvvslaxman]

21 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Even Akhtar had collapsed knee. That's not the reason for his injury. I don't get what's the fuss. All fast bowlers get injured at some point in their career. Pandya still has a long career ahead of him.

 

No. Pandya's collapse is one of the worst i have seen from a pace bowler. That is not the cause of his back issues. But because of his back issues he cannot sustain the action. Real source of his back is not that. It is his batting style.  He relies on bat speed to hit big sixes. Since he stays deep in the crease he has to generate momentum in a standing position. He arches so far back and tries to get elevation. There is no forward momentum like Kohli or other players have.  That is a lot of stress on the back for a fragile like him. I suffered the same injury when i played. Every time i lofted i felt the pinch. It got worse and worse.  He already had a surgery. He continues standing so far back and trying to smash. He probably can get used to it. But if he picks up another back injury his career will be summarily over. Balaji's career was over after one stress fracture in back.

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

No. Pandya's collapse is one of the worst i have seen from a pace bowler. That is not the cause of his back issues. But because of his back issues he cannot sustain the action. Real source of his back is not that. It is his batting style.  He relies on bat speed to hit big sixes. Since he stays deep in the crease he has to generate momentum in a standing position. He arches so far back and tries to get elevation. There is no forward momentum like Kohli or other players have.  That is a lot of stress on the back for a fragile like him. I suffered the same injury when i played. Every time i lofted i felt the pinch. It got worse and worse.  He already had a surgery. He continues standing so far back and trying to smash. He probably can get used to it. But if he picks up another back injury his career will be summarily over. Balaji's career was over after one stress fracture in back.

 

Keep in mind Pandya is not a guy who grew up bowling pace from a young age - IIRC he 'tried' bowling pace when he was already 20 or so, and he got some wickets and kept going.  

 

Time will tell if he's able to bounce back from his injury or not.  Let's see.  

 

I had high hopes for him to become a 5 year contributor in white ball cricket, and an outside chance to be a missing piece of the puzzle for away tours.  It is what it is.  Good quality batsmen who can bowl 140 are unicorns - few and far between.  If you think about it, the list post-2000 is what - Kallis, Flintoff, Razzaq, Mitch Marsh, Pandya? Did Shane Watson crank it up that high?

[Mariyam]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/i-warned-him-that-he-would-get-injured-shoaib-akhtar-reveals-why-he-had-predicted-hardik-pandyas-fitness-issues-2647243

 

"I touched his (Hardik) back,   muscles were there but very lean. So I warned him that he would get injured. But he said that he has been playing a lot of cricket."

What a creep!

 

Creep factor aside, I'm calling BS on this. Akhtar can touch a bowler's back and predict injuries?

 

Can he also predict migraines by simply placing two fingers on the temple? 

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

No. Pandya's collapse is one of the worst i have seen from a pace bowler. That is not the cause of his back issues. But because of his back issues he cannot sustain the action. Real source of his back is not that. It is his batting style.  He relies on bat speed to hit big sixes. Since he stays deep in the crease he has to generate momentum in a standing position. He arches so far back and tries to get elevation. There is no forward momentum like Kohli or other players have.  That is a lot of stress on the back for a fragile like him. I suffered the same injury when i played. Every time i lofted i felt the pinch. It got worse and worse.  He already had a surgery. He continues standing so far back and trying to smash. He probably can get used to it. But if he picks up another back injury his career will be summarily over. Balaji's career was over after one stress fracture in back.

No. Back issue is because of bowling, not batting. He has a mixed Action and a soft landing, unable to rotate the back foot effectively which leads to left lateral flexion resulting in stress fracture of the back. 

 

Regarding his back foot bend, it's not a collapse. All knee dominant bowlers will have the bend, some more some less. 

 

Here is Lockie Ferguson, look at the bend. He is knee dominant as well.

 

 

Umesh Yadav, another knee dominant athlete.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by rkt.india

[Lone Wolf]

Pandya doesn't has the physique of a fast bowler...  Sure he could have had a decent career if he was a Bhuvi level trundler.  Fast bowling A/R are far more injury prone than anyone else in the game.  The back injury he suffered in Asia Cup 2018 sealed his fate sadly.  He used to bowl in high 130's & 140k+ as well. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

What a creep!

 

Creep factor aside, I'm calling BS on this. Akhtar can touch a bowler's back and predict injuries?

 

Can he also predict migraines by simply placing two fingers on the temple? 

Akhtar & Lee have both have amazing knowledge about fast bowling biomechanics. 

[Jay]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

No. Pandya's collapse is one of the worst i have seen from a pace bowler. That is not the cause of his back issues. But because of his back issues he cannot sustain the action. Real source of his back is not that. It is his batting style.  He relies on bat speed to hit big sixes. Since he stays deep in the crease he has to generate momentum in a standing position. He arches so far back and tries to get elevation. There is no forward momentum like Kohli or other players have.  That is a lot of stress on the back for a fragile like him. I suffered the same injury when i played. Every time i lofted i felt the pinch. It got worse and worse.  He already had a surgery. He continues standing so far back and trying to smash. He probably can get used to it. But if he picks up another back injury his career will be summarily over. Balaji's career was over after one stress fracture in back.

Balaji was weak. Built like a twig. That's That's he snapped. Got to work on your body. Always. 

[New guy]

3 hours ago, Mariyam said:

What a creep!

 

Creep factor aside, I'm calling BS on this. Akhtar can touch a bowler's back and predict injuries?

 

Can he also predict migraines by simply placing two fingers on the temple? 

Guess how he diagnoses genital warts

[New guy]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

Balaji was weak. Built like a twig. That's That's he snapped. Got to work on your body. Always. 

He was lean like Pandya 

[Mesky99]

Hmm pandya and weak? He is ripped and has lean muscle mass, not weak at all, he was never a bowler until his first list a match, started bowling Seam up and in no time bowled decent speeds and looked like a proper bowler, his back injuries have nothing to do with his bowling but his batting, power hitting requires a lot of lower body strength and pandya activates his whole lower body strength while looking to hit out, akthar was a druggie and for most part overweight, he played 9-12 games max in a year including tests compared to pandya who plays over 30 including domestic cricket and is a proper athlete who does not hide in the field. Imagine fat akthar lecturing someone with a physique like this

[Sandeep99]

This guy is history. Unless he develops some brain becomes mature - which I do not see happening - he's going to remain an IPL star. Starting with Shardul and V Iyer I feel we're going to see a plethora of medium pace bowling allrounders and it will be difficult for Hardik to sustain in Indian team with his performances.

[Iconoclast]

5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Akhtar & Lee have both have amazing knowledge about fast bowling biomechanics. 

I seen it over and over slim express bowlers getting back injuries.

 

Guys like Shoaib and Lee had powerful lower bodies to develop pace, skinnier guys have a more whippy action that puts strain on the back.

 

The case of Mohammad Zahid who was super quick but got back injuries due to his action -

 

 

 

[raki05]

2 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Hmm pandya and weak? He is ripped and has lean muscle mass, not weak at all, he was never a bowler until his first list a match, started bowling Seam up and in no time bowled decent speeds and looked like a proper bowler, his back injuries have nothing to do with his bowling but his batting, power hitting requires a lot of lower body strength and pandya activates his whole lower body strength while looking to hit out, akthar was a druggie and for most part overweight, he played 9-12 games max in a year including tests compared to pandya who plays over 30 including domestic cricket and is a proper athlete who does not hide in the field. Imagine fat akthar lecturing someone with a physique like this

Why this idiot is batting shirtless, does he think it's modelling audition for film? Aur kapde utado bc ball kahi aur hai ,eyes kahi aur , ho gayi na back injury.

[Mesky99]

4 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Why this idiot is batting shirtless, does he think it's modelling audition for film? Aur kapde utado bc ball kahi aur hai ,eyes kahi aur , ho gayi na back injury.

Don't be jealous, if you were as ripped as him you to would be shirtless.