Has cricket world cup lost its shine due to an ICC event being played every year?

[Austin 3:!6]

When we were kids, there used to be only 1 world cup in every 4 years. The anticipation and hype for those events were unreal.

 

Then ICC introduced 'Mini world cup' in the shape of knock out tournament which later changed to Champions Trophy

 

With the advent of T20 cricket, WT20 is now being played every other year. 

 

Then there is the farce named WTC Final

 

So the situation is - we have a world cup coming in 2 months and another WT20 in 10 months time

 

Are these yearly world events ruining the prestige or importance that world cup cricket once had?

 

 

[zen]

The prestige of "winning a world event" has not changed. However, teams' approach to planning these events has changed. 

 

When the events were spread out, the bilateral series had more value. Now teams prefer to use them to prepare for more prestigious events. For India, IPL adds another dimension as doing well in it outweighs performances in bilaterals for most. 

 

Administrators, coaches, players, etc. know what they are doing and where the priorities are. Most fans haven't understood that yet (and many just follow for wins, like if they watch a game, their team should win) so appear outdated (when they perceive that they are ahead of the curve). 

 

 

[Lord]

cricket itself has become about money than enjoying as sport.

[tapandrun]

Yes- With so many ICC trophies every year or the other year WCs has lost their charm.

Not sure about value, earlier there was only 1 trophy/Cup i.e. WC, if any team had that they were considered no.1/champion team.

 

Now that there are 3 formats and 3 different WCs each team is focusing 1/2 format nd hence there are 2/3  champion sides.

No 1 is undisputed #1 now.

 

[Frustrated]

I beg to differ.    Just becz Ind hv not won any icc trophy in a decade does not mean Icc events/WC hv lost their value.  Further, Aus were clearly the dominant side in all formats from year 2000-2010. That was a monotonous period for neutral cricket fans.  Not the case any more.  With teams like Eng emerging as champs in white ball cricket, it has become rather more fascinating.  

Edited August 15, 2023 by Frustrated

[First class]

WC and WTC is fine , its just T20 WC every 2 years is too much. 

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

When we were kids, there used to be only 1 world cup in every 4 years. The anticipation and hype for those events were unreal.

 

Then ICC introduced 'Mini world cup' in the shape of knock out tournament which later changed to Champions Trophy

 

With the advent of T20 cricket, WT20 is now being played every other year. 

 

Then there is the farce named WTC Final

 

So the situation is - we have a world cup coming in 2 months and another WT20 in 10 months time

 

Are these yearly world events ruining the prestige or importance that world cup cricket once had?

 

 

yep, there are too many of them

[Nikhil_cric]

No doubt about it. But a 2 month IPL is probably just as culpable. T20 has stolen ODI's thunder and now ODI's are getting step-motherly treatment from ICC and the individual boards.

 

Ideally, they should reduce the extremely inflated importance given to Tests with ODI's becoming the new Tests played by a handful of nations and franchise cricket dominating the world of T20's. 

[Majestic]

Yes, it is. 

 

Champions Trophy should be abandoned.

 

T20 World Cup should happen once in 4 years.

 

ODI World Cup should happen once in 4 years.

 

World Test championship is a cycle so it can take place after every two years to have a clear idea on who exactly are test championships.

 

Being a test champion and ODI champion matters. Being T20 champions solely don't strengthen your case much as apparent by the fact that most will remember England as LOI World champions over the last 4-5 years and not Australia who won once in between that.

[Norman]

Yes. 

 

The rebranding of the World T20 to become a "T20 World Cup" is also one of the reasons. Before 2021 , there used to be just one world cup every 4 years but now there's either a T20 or an ODI World cup every year plus the World Test Championship final. 

 

By the time of the 2023 WC final, we'd have had three 'world' finals in the space of less than a year. If that's not dilution of importance, then I don't know what is.

[Norman]

Agree with Majestic above..

 

Champions trophy serves zero purpose and should be binned. Don't know why they decided to bring it back from the dead after 2017. Three world tournaments for the three formats should be more than enough.

 

And to make the T20 wc a bit more "secondary" to the ODI wc , they should introduce an age cap that will restrict teams from having more than 3-4 players that are U23. This is what FIFA did for the Olympics for it to not collide with the world cup 

[Austin 3:!6]

2 hours ago, Norman said:

Agree with Majestic above..

 

Champions trophy serves zero purpose and should be binned. Don't know why they decided to bring it back from the dead after 2017. Three world tournaments for the three formats should be more than enough.

 

And to make the T20 wc a bit more "secondary" to the ODI wc , they should introduce an age cap that will restrict teams from having more than 3-4 players that are U23. This is what FIFA did for the Olympics for it to not collide with the world cup 

 

Its due to money. ICC want to have a global event every year to fill their coffers. 

[LordPrabhzy]

4 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Its due to money. ICC want to have a global event every year to fill their coffers. 

 Only because India and Pak made it to the final of 2017 CT. If they didnt ICC would have deffo canned it.

 

TBH i personally was happy with once in 4 years of ODI WC and T20 WC. Now its getting too much and I feel the winners tag has no meaning now.

[ThirtyD.]

On 8/14/2023 at 2:09 PM, zen said:

The prestige of "winning a world event" has not changed. However, teams' approach to planning these events has changed. 

 

When the events were spread out, the bilateral series had more value. Now teams prefer to use them to prepare for more prestigious events. For India, IPL adds another dimension as doing well in it outweighs performances in bilaterals for most. 

 

Administrators, coaches, players, etc. know what they are doing and where the priorities are. Most fans haven't understood that yet (and many just follow for wins, like if they watch a game, their team should win) so appear outdated (when they perceive that they are ahead of the curve). 

 

 

If you ask Hardik, I’m sure he’d prefer losing the World Cup over winning it as losing teaches far more valuable lessons than winning.

[Vilander]

All your wish would come true soon. With India dimnishing fast to midcard level under hardik pandaya, money would dry up in the game. So one or few of these tournaments will drop. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Vilander

[Vijy]

6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

All your wish would come true soon. With India dimnishing fast to midcard level under hardik pandaya, money would dry up in the game. So one or few of these tournaments will drop. 

we will soon play only IPL and shun int'l cricket

[express bowling]

Yes.

 

My preference ....

 

ODI World Cup once every 4 years.

 

T20I World Cup once every 4 years and taking place 2 years after the ODI WC. 

 

WTC should be scrapped. 

 

Too many ICC events are preventing new player development too, apart from dip in interest among the masses. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by express bowling

[R!TTER]

On 8/15/2023 at 5:55 AM, Frustrated said:

Aus were clearly the dominant side in all formats from year 2000-2010.

Not 2k to 2010 but 99-07, their dominance really ended when McWarne retired. Although their ODI outfit was still spectacular for a few more years.

[Vickydev]

Don't know, I tend to like these frequent world events, keeps everyone on their toes, there is no lasting legacy as such as there is another World Championship round the corner to prove

 

As a viewer its also better to have them so close together. Every year there is something exciting to watch