What was Karthik thinking?

[Ankit_sharma03 12,877]

Just now, putrevus said:

No Bumrah was not there, and Kohli did win odi series in NZ.Stop finding the need to find something wrong when there is nothing wrong .

M talking about aussie series as u mentioned 

 

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

 

Kohli won with the same unit in Australia. Kohli is the best captain for this team.


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Just now, putrevus said:

 

Kohli is the best captain in all formats , no need to fix something which does not need to be fixed.

how is kohli best captain in LOI  - guy has hardly won any major tournament 

Just now, putrevus said:

 

Instead we need to fix the the need for bits and pieces players.

n whats the fix

[Gollum 8,892]

@maniac garu is right. Whilst Rohit hardly came near justifying his Himalayan reputation, he was clearly better than at least 4-5 Indian cricketers on display today. At the start of the innings did any of us even think we would get near their score? After Dhawan fell it was up to Rohit to stay till the end, he failed but at least was involved in a couple of significant partnerships along the way. Our line up has too many players who saturate with lowish scores, a 30/2 situation could have easily become 80/6. 

 

When a player like Rohit is out there, because of his aura the opponent team remains nervous and the captain holds back the best bowlers for the latter part of the innings...this allows others to enjoy the hospitality of the 4th, 5th and 6th bowlers and get their eyes in. Also because of the reputation of the big player the batsman at the other end flows under the radar and can launch a few surprises...basic psychology and common sense. In the 1979 WC F, when WI were reduced to 4/90 there was an ATG partnership between King Viv and a nobody called Collis King...do check out and tell me who was the aggressor in that partnership and who was the anchor.  

 

No basis to incessantly whine about his anchor role when our RR was maintained at 10+ with 7 wickets in hand because game was always in control, ideally Rohit would have gone ballistic in the last 6 overs but failed. Sure his SR may not look good, he himself would agree. But singling him out as the biggest mujrim for today's result is a logical fallacy. And this was a one-off failure, there are others like Dadu for whom failure is a har roz ki kahani, note the difference and don't forget who is really holding this team's potential back. 

Edited Sunday at 05:23 PM by Gollum

[Pollack 5,711]

40 minutes ago, maniac said:

Dhoni scored 2 from 4. Those 4 additional balls we could have easily won. Rohit scores 38 runs which bumped the score down. Not calling a great knock but how can people not see the difference. Had he got out for 0(1) the middle order had to stitch together 38 more runs and given all of them are cameo players that is more of an uphill task. 

 

Clearly the hate towards Rohit is agenda driven

Rohit has the capability to go from ball one. He just chose not to since he will at max score 30s on average with such approach. Now building an innings may make sense in ODIs but in T20s?  I will take a quick fire 30 than an anchored 50 from an opener. 

[maniac 13,245]

Apparently 2(4) is a great selfless innings that didn’t impact teams cause. I initially thought it was fun trolling but it had reached an unbelievable amount of seriousness

Edited Sunday at 05:24 PM by maniac

[Ankit_sharma03 12,877]

1 minute ago, Pollack said:

Rohit has the capability to go from ball one. He just chose not to since he will at max score 30s on average with such approach. Now building an innings may make sense in ODIs but in T20s?  I will take a quick fire 30 than an anchored 50 from an opener. 

but he doesnt do that, he takes his time and then starts to accelerate as his innings build

[putrevus 3,435]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

M talking about aussie series as u mentioned 

 

how is kohli best captain in LOI  - guy has hardly won any major tournament 

n whats the fix

Aussies odi series where did Bumrah play, The guy hardly captained any major tournament.The only tournament he captained he took the team to finals. 

 

Why are  you sounding as if Kohli lost some tournaments. If India stopped playing bits and pieces players they will more matches and tournaments.They are problem not the Kohli's captaincy.

[R!TTER 1,182]

First of all Kohli isn't giving up on captaincy & Sharma isn't getting LOI Captain just by minnow bashing (SL or WI) or bilateral records. He has to do better than Kohli with the bat & Kohli has to do worse, also India has to lose under Kohli consistently before Sharma is even considered a replacement. Any of those possibilities are unlikely in the next year or two, I bet Sharma goes downhill faster & earlier than Kohli ever will.

[maniac 13,245]

8 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Rohit has the capability to go from ball one. He just chose not to since he will at max score 30s on average with such approach. Now building an innings may make sense in ODIs but in T20s?  I will take a quick fire 30 than an anchored 50 from an opener. 

It wasn’t a good innings by any stretch but calling it the sole reason for losing the game by 4 runs when 2 main players got out for 7(9) balls to put pressure is a little extreme.

Edited Sunday at 05:31 PM by maniac

[Ankit_sharma03 12,877]

4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Aussies odi series where did Bumrah play, The guy hardly captained any major tournament.The only tournament he captained he took the team to finals. 

CT 2017 

asia cup 2014

IPL - so many yrs never looked good as captain n its a tournament with mnay teams n highly competitve 

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Why are  you sounding as if Kohli lost some tournaments. If India stopped playing bits and pieces players they will more matches and tournaments.They are problem not the Kohli's captaincy.

who are bits and pieces btw

Edited Sunday at 05:30 PM by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03 12,877]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

It wasn’t a good innings by any stretch but calling it the sole reason for losing the game by 4 runs when 2 main players got out for 7(9) balls to

put pressure is a little extreme.

main reason was fielding. U can have bad or good days with bat n ball  , fielding shud be good most if not everyday

agree rohit alone cnt be blamed, he just cudnt get his timing going which can happen to anyone any day

Edited Sunday at 05:30 PM by Ankit_sharma03

[SK_IH 4,369]

First time reading people going after players who got out early to defend their hero who played a selfish innings. Amazing we have such low class trolls in here 

[putrevus 3,435]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

CT 2017 

IPL - so many yrs never looked good as captain n its a tournament with mnay teams n highly competitve 

who are bits and pieces btw

Complain about IPL in IPL forum. CT 2017 he did fine stop whining. As Indian captain he is the best captain, we don't care what he does in IPL .Who cares about IPL.

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03 12,877]

Just now, putrevus said:

Complain about IPL in IPL forum. CT 2017 he did fine stop whining. As Indian captain he is the best captain, we don't care what he does in IPL .Who cares about IPL.

 

 

ok live in denial . 

Do care about IPL, it has given a lot to indian cricket 

[maniac 13,245]

15 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

First time reading people going after players who got out early to defend their hero who played a selfish innings. Amazing we have such low class trolls in here 

Yeah 2(4) is a greater knock than 38(32)  

 

Another butthurt Dhoni fanboy spotted and this one is a passive agressive one as well

[maniac 13,245]

@SK_IH maybe a bit too harsh there buddy. Peace

[Gollum 8,892]

Karthik getting too much bile on twitter, man the PR machinery of #youknowhow is scary. In today's world mocking the Aloha Snackbar prophet seems a less risky venture than angering the Dark Lord. 

[cowboysfan 759]

this loss is on idiot selectors  for picking Dhoni  who wasted 4 balls.Dhoni is too old for T20s 

[bowl_out 2,303]

Can be debated either way..

He could have trusted Krunal who was striking it just as well.. 

On the other hand, there isn't a who lot of difference between 14 off 3 and 13 off 3...   Split second decision where Karthik backed himself to get 14 off 3 vs Krunal getting 13 off 3.. 

 

Either way, the match was lost by the guys who played 38(32) and 2(4)

[asterix 6,066]

Don’t take this series seriously. This was a “give & take” series...

You take ODIs, we take the T20s...

 

The pie chucker KruPa becoming MoM in the second match was the indicator. He’s a rank pie chukar...he shouldn’t be in the team... Rohit showed his MI bias to give full series to KruPa...

 

Rohit sucked as captain in this series... pretty mediocre team selection, not utilising Shankar’s bowling. Persisting with pretty mediocre Khalil, who’s a pathetic fielder too. I was hoping for Kaul to play in place of him...

 

If you are experimenting in this series why give full series to those mediocre players like KruPa & Khalil full series while KeJa and Kaul sitting on bench?

 

Dhoni as a WK gives you crucial wickets. His lightning stumping saved India otherwise would’ve been chasing a much bigger score...

 

To me Rohit looks a compromised individual... He can win or lose as per demand without raising any eyebrows...

Edited Monday at 05:58 PM by asterix

[Soorma_Bhopali 202]

21 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Topic should be What was Rohit thinking. He was sleep walking all match lol. He is mentally fatigued. Why did he even take part in T20 games. Not like we have world T20 coming up. FIrst of all what is the point o T20 series. 

Rohit is too rigid in his bowling plans ..the momenthe saw the likes of Pandya brothers, he should have tried Shankar or some alternate.

 

I also do not understand why he also tries rolling his arm considering that he has got two IPL hat-tricks.

[ShoonyaSifar 1,059]

46 minutes ago, Soorma_Bhopali said:

Rohit is too rigid in his bowling plans ..the momenthe saw the likes of Pandya brothers, he should have tried Shankar or some alternate.

 

I also do not understand why he also tries rolling his arm considering that he has got two IPL hat-tricks.

Back troubles. Both Kohli and Rohit are not going to bowl any longer.

[ShoonyaSifar 1,059]

14 hours ago, Gollum said:

Karthik getting too much bile on twitter, man the PR machinery of #youknowhow is scary. In today's world mocking the Aloha Snackbar prophet seems a less risky venture than angering the Dark Lord. 

All aimed at ensuring no one points finger to the elephant in the room who lost us the match. No wonder they had to peddle the story of how great a patriot he is to hide his failures.

[Laaloo 14,100]

21 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

this loss is on idiot selectors  for picking Dhoni  who wasted 4 balls.Dhoni is too old for T20s 

He’s sucked donkey balls in t20 since 2008. Even when he was young, he was crap. He boosted some of his stats in meaningless knocks over the last few years though but still needs other power hitters to bail his ass out.

[ShoonyaSifar 1,059]

21 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

He’s sucked donkey balls in t20 since 2008. Even when he was young, he was crap. He boosted some of his stats in meaningless knocks over the last few years though but still needs other power hitters to bail his ass out.

I have a very simple theory for Dhoni and T20s.. In IPL, he plays for his team i.e. CSK, hence has lesser no. of not outs, higher strike rate and lower average. Doesn’t mind taking risks and getting out in trying to go for a win.

 

When playing for India, al that matters to him is his average, hence a lower strike rate, disproportionate number of not outs and very carefully selected situations of the team when he comes out to bat.

[bowl_out 2,303]

37 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

I have a very simple theory for Dhoni and T20s.. In IPL, he plays for his team i.e. CSK, hence has lesser no. of not outs, higher strike rate and lower average. Doesn’t mind taking risks and getting out in trying to go for a win.

 

When playing for India, al that matters to him is his average, hence a lower strike rate, disproportionate number of not outs and very carefully selected situations of the team when he comes out to bat.

In IPL, he has 1-2 pie chuckers in every team that he targets - Thisara Perera, Corey Anderson, Axar Patel.

In Internationals, he hardly gets such bowlers.. Hence, has to go defensive and steal some cheap runs, so he can still prove his value.

[Adi BB 1,960]

23 hours ago, R!TTER said:

First of all Kohli isn't giving up on captaincy & Sharma isn't getting LOI Captain just by minnow bashing (SL or WI) or bilateral records. He has to do better than Kohli with the bat & Kohli has to do worse, also India has to lose under Kohli consistently before Sharma is even considered a replacement. Any of those possibilities are unlikely in the next year or two, I bet Sharma goes downhill faster & earlier than Kohli ever will.

Agree .kohli is the best bet atm ,he has led India in only 1 major tournament,it ended in a disappointing defeat but we reached the final .

Rohit will decline soon that I agree ,he cant overtake kohli as the captain till kohli decides to relinquish