velu Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 i feel shami is the right person to groom our pace bowlers OpeningBatsman, raki05 and nevada 1 2
Straight Drive Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Okay, this drama about youngsters for tests. That too only playing Gill and Pant. Two spots for youngsters and what about rest. Do two young players getting chances mean a next generation team is built. Expect the plan of developing two youngsters only to build a next generation team to fail. For that plan to succeed few years later, one needs to play many youngsters now in playing 11. What about developing a team for ODI and T20i. Or are they waiting to announce after we are out of the T20i and World cup. Edited December 21, 2020 by Straight Drive raki05, nevada and express bowling 3
Khota Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 This grooming thing is all nonsense. Use the existing player and field the best X1. Sharma, Rahu, Dhawan and Pant were better choices than the curent lot. Break in only a new player or two if they excell. Before the first bowl was bowled I mentioned not playing Rahul and Pant is a mistake. Grooming is diversion. They are still not adressing the problem.
OpeningBatsman Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, velu said: i feel shami is the right person to groom our pace bowlers "young" pacers is the keyword with shami raki05 and velu 1 1
kubrickian Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Edit Edited December 21, 2020 by kubrickian
Vickydev Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 7 hours ago, kosingh said: Have any good test batsman come through in the last 4-5 years? Part of it is Virat's fault for creating insecurities. A bit surprising that with Rahul Dravid taking care of the U19s, there is a bit of a dearth of young test batsmen. The system invested a lot in Shaw and Pant. Pant may just turn out fine in tests long term. Not sure about Shaw. The u19s are not really improving enough in the domestic system, atleast not in the longer format. Likes of Shaw and Gill still have the same deficiencies they had a couple of years back. Only Porel is showing improvements enough. Avesh has become a swing bowling trundler. I think we need something in between the A side and u19 teams which can act as a bridge between the two levels and grant these players exposure to foreign conditions to fasttrack the exceptional talents.
Lone Wolf Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Khota said: This grooming thing is all nonsense. Use the existing player and field the best X1. Sharma, Rahu, Dhawan and Pant were better choices than the curent lot. Break in only a new player or two if they excell. Before the first bowl was bowled I mentioned not playing Rahul and Pant is a mistake. Grooming is diversion. They are still not adressing the problem. Did you really mentioned Dhawan... The 35 year old with ultra slow reflexes is supposed to play seam swing & bounce which he was unable to do in his prime years lol. ShoonyaSifar, LordPrabhzy, express bowling and 4 others 7
express bowling Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I really like Padikkal's batting. He has time to play fast bowlers and can drive, cut and pull too. Can play on the front foot and off the back foot too. Has both timing and power. But he averages 34.9 after 15 FC games with no centuries. This is a cause for concern for a test match prospect. I hope the main reason for pushing him is not because he is a left hander. Edited December 21, 2020 by express bowling Mosher, raki05, Lone Wolf and 1 other 4
Lone Wolf Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, express bowling said: I really like Padikkal's batting. He has time to play fast bowlers and can drive, cut and pull too. Can play on the front foot and off the back foot too. Has both timing and power. But he averages 34.9 after 15 FC games with no centuries. This is a cause for concern for a test match prospect. I hope the main reason for pushing him is not because he is a left hander. Needs to work on his fitness.. I think he lacks stamina & endurance to play for longer duration. His Technique & strokes are absolutely top class & has got the gift of timing. Hopefully he overcomes his short comings in NCA. raki05 and express bowling 2
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 LOL after derailing one youngster after another, they suddenly realised they need to groom younger players? More like a PR plant aimed at diverting the criticism of the surrender in the 1st test. Nothing other than sacking the jokers in this TM should be allowed raki05, sandsaims and Gollum 3
Majestic Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Needs to work on his fitness.. I think he lacks stamina & endurance to play for longer duration. His Technique & strokes are absolutely top class & has got the gift of timing. Hopefully he overcomes his short comings in NCA. I think that's because he is young. However, his fielding and catching was absolutey top notch level this season for RCB.
IndianRenegade Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 10 hours ago, express bowling said: Changes in Indian cricket come only after major debacles. Why can't we think of these basic things before major debacles !! Because thats how India runs. is there any aspect of Indian society that works differently?
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Not. Holding. My. Breath. Problem is we fans are easily the biggest chew****s in this game. We'll moan and whine and cry ... but when MCG opens up on Saturday, we will be soaking it all in like starry eyed nincompoops on Willow or Cricinfo or whatever ... aiding in the money churning! Norman 1
Tattieboy Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 That's it !! No more Indian tours to England , they have enough grooming gangs as it is
express bowling Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 10:06 PM, IndianRenegade said: Because thats how India runs. is there any aspect of Indian society that works differently? The big listed companies in India are very proactive and efficient. If they are not then their stock prices will fall. And most of the top management have stock options. The easiest way to bring out consistent performances from our national team / cricketers is to have a system whereby bad performances will cause serious financial harm. A huge amount of their remuneration should be tied to the series performances of Team India. Some other strong clauses regarding their income related to cricket, are needed too. Then we will find magical improvement in performances. Edited December 23, 2020 by express bowling
Khota Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Did you really mentioned Dhawan... The 35 year old with ultra slow reflexes is supposed to play seam swing & bounce which he was unable to do in his prime years lol. Call it slow reflex o whatever he is always the top scorer.
Forever Indian Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 5 hours ago, express bowling said: I really like Padikkal's batting. He has time to play fast bowlers and can drive, cut and pull too. Can play on the front foot and off the back foot too. Has both timing and power. But he averages 34.9 after 15 FC games with no centuries. This is a cause for concern for a test match prospect. I hope the main reason for pushing him is not because he is a left hander. Agreed, seems a lot like Yuvi who was a great fit for LOIs with a range of strokes but was not a fit to Tests. Not saying Devdutt will not develop into a test bastman, just that he should not be fast tracked to tests despite not able to score runs in Domestics. express bowling 1
Jodonjo Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Khota said: Call it slow reflex o whatever he is always the top scorer. This is not odi we are talking about
diga Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, express bowling said: I really like Padikkal's batting. He has time to play fast bowlers and can drive, cut and pull too. Can play on the front foot and off the back foot too. Has both timing and power. But he averages 34.9 after 15 FC games with no centuries. This is a cause for concern for a test match prospect. I hope the main reason for pushing him is not because he is a left hander. This is his first season.. Lets wait for 1 more season to see if he can grind it out in Indian domestics. Only problem is he could pick up habits which will show up as weakness in swinging / seaming conditions
nsareen Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 Yashasvi Jaiswal should be fast tracked too, has lot of potential and is an all rounder.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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