Pujara's dedication to tests and team Ind

[Tattieboy]

On 2/22/2021 at 7:02 PM, zen said:

At the moment, my AT Ind 11 would be something like below (from players across the eras):

 

• #1-3: Gavaskar, Sehwag & Pujara 
• #4-5: 2 from Dravid, Sachin, Kohli, VVS, ... (all are good batsmen so anyone can be slotted in)
• #6: Reserved for batting AR -> Mankad (Ind's biggest match winner in terms of avg difference in matches won. 100s in Aus and Eng. Can open the batting too so good when facing the 2nd new ball. If he bowled on rank turners, his bowling avg would be better too. A thread on him) 
• #7: WK AR -> Pant (the new boy) or Engineer (opened for India in many games so good with facing the 2nd new ball) 
• #8: Reserved for bowling AR ->  Kapil (I need strong batting till #8)
• #9-10: 2 Pace bowlers: Bumrah and Shami (since they bowl well as a pair). Other options: Srinath & Zaheer 
• #11: Specialist spinner (to be supported by Mankad) ->: Chandra, somewhat of a mystery spinner (won Ind test series in ENG in relatively unhelpful conditions) 

Pant is 10 times the WK/ Bat Engineer was . Infact Engineer wasn't best of his generation Budhi Kunderan was but his face didn't fit and refused to be picked for India 

[Lone Wolf]

58 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Next is england tour 

 

• Where he ll play against red duke ball- County red duke vs IPL white ball 
• He ll play in england- county will be in england vs IPL in india 
• Time in middle - In county he will surely be in XI vs in IPL i doubt

I think for a experienced player like Pujara where he had multiple county stints & Eng tours conditions won't be alien to him compared to a young guy on his first or 2nd tour.  He'll get to play few practice games or intra squad games before final & that should be enough for him. 

Last point is crucial though.  Will CSK test him?  As an opener in few games with Gaikwad.  I am not so sure either.  If he doesn't gets a few games it'll be a waste of time for sure coz Any sort of Competitive games help before a big tour. 

[nevada]

1 hour ago, Clarke said:

 

This bat freely isn't so simple without the abilities. What if he struggles with run a ball innings like Rahane did for RR, how does that help gain confidence ?

He has earned a chance to prove to himself that he can do it in T20. Let him be, he is not an ordained priest who has to deny himself a fun paid gig. If he struggles like Rahane, so be it. He still takes home 50L and would have tried something new. He deserves a chance to do as he pleases. 

 

[Clarke]

24 minutes ago, nevada said:

He has earned a chance to prove to himself that he can do it in T20. Let him be, he is not an ordained priest who has to deny himself a fun paid gig. If he struggles like Rahane, so be it. He still takes home 50L and would have tried something new. He deserves a chance to do as he pleases. 

 

 

I didn't say he should skip the offer, I have my doubts on him gaining confidence in the IPL, especially with his scoring off late. There is a good chance he won't be playing most games.

 

The prospect of Dhoni & Pujara together on the crease in the first 10 overs 

[Ankit_sharma03]

46 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I think for a experienced player like Pujara where he had multiple county stints & Eng tours conditions won't be alien to him compared to a young guy on his first or 2nd tour.  

 

Wherever u go ull have to adjust specially in england where it swings a lot . Aus is not that tough to adjust now coz wkts are good for batting but england better prep as much as possible

46 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

 

He'll get to play few practice games or intra squad games before final & that should be enough for him. 

Last point is crucial though.  Will CSK test him?  As an opener in few games with Gaikwad.  I am not so sure either.  If he doesn't gets a few games it'll be a waste of time for sure coz Any sort of Competitive games help before a big tour. 

 

They have uthappa who has been in red hot form and Faf, even rayudu 

[Vk1]

6 hours ago, sarchasm said:

Hazlewood is an all format player. Pujara barely plays enough to keep his form going. And why wouldn't he want to test himself in T20? Not like he's a prisoner to fans' demand that he preserve himself for tests.

both are very similar players.. suited more to test cricket.. Pujara already has many issues to sort out, why go to IPL of all places at this time? and to add to this, his record in Eng has never been great 

[The Realist]

So in conclusion he will flop in Eng as usual and will barely play in IPL 

 

Dedication

[Lone Wolf]

38 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

both are very similar players.. suited more to test cricket.. Pujara already has many issues to sort out, why go to IPL of all places at this time? and to add to this, his record in Eng has never been great 

Lol Hazelwood has gun stats in ODIs off late man.  He is probably best in the world in ODIs along with Boult in last 2 years. 

He has decided to skip this year's IPl though.  I rate him above Cummins in LOIs. 

[zen]

The king in prep:

 

 

 

 

[afan]

Pujara may or may not make a difference for CSK,  but just by giving him this IPL break has shown that this Yellow colored Franchisee is indeed Lion Hearted...They have won a lot of respect

 

Just because of this gesture alone, Imma gonna root for CSK this year

[zen]

 

[Mariyam]

38 minutes ago, afan said:

Pujara may or may not make a difference for CSK,  but just by giving him this IPL break has shown that this Yellow colored Franchisee is indeed Lion Hearted...They have won a lot of respect

 

Just because of this gesture alone, Imma gonna root for CSK this year

If I were to think of it from the POV of the fans, they wouldn't be happy watching Pujara spend 5 overs in the PP scoring 6 runs in 15 balls and getting out.

 

It kind of kills all urgency in their batting. Angering the fan base or alienating them is not the way ahead for any franchise. Far too much money riding on the Franchise.

 

If CSK really wanted to honour Pujara, they should have added him to the coaching staff.

Edited April 1, 2021 by Mariyam

[GautiMaan]

1 hour ago, zen said:

The king in prep:

 

 

 

 

High backlift and everything..

[Vilander]

Pujara has trust in his game, crazier things have happened. It will be funny if he has a good season with csk. 

[Frustrated]

Well, Pujara's dedication to test will be judged by his performance in the WTC final against Nz.  Had a horrible home series against England.  And has poor record in england overall.  Good opportunity to redeem himself in WTC final.  

[afan]

18 hours ago, Mariyam said:

If I were to think of it from the POV of the fans, they wouldn't be happy watching Pujara spend 5 overs in the PP scoring 6 runs in 15 balls and getting out.

 

It kind of kills all urgency in their batting. Angering the fan base or alienating them is not the way ahead for any franchise. Far too much money riding on the Franchise.

 

If CSK really wanted to honour Pujara, they should have added him to the coaching staff.

 

Everybody needs a second chance in their lives. While playing Test matches can give you accolades if you do well, you still need the money after you hang up your boots isnt it.

 

Im hoping for a turnaround for Pujara...Lets wish him all the best

[Vk1]

apparently RCB bought this guy for 3+ crores in 2011.. tabh se hi paagal the rcb wale 

[ShoonyaSifar]

2 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

apparently RCB bought this guy for 3+ crores in 2011.. tabh se hi paagal the rcb wale 

What exactly is wrong in a franchise signing up a young Indian batsman whose stock was on the rise. He suffered a career threatening knee injury in that 2011 IPL and has forever been hobbled by that knee surgery and the long rehab he had to undergo after it.

 

But for that injury (and another in 2009 IPL), who knows how Pujara's LOI career may have turned out to be.

[ShoonyaSifar]

On 4/2/2021 at 7:57 AM, Frustrated said:

Well, Pujara's dedication to test will be judged by his performance in the WTC final against Nz.  Had a horrible home series against England.  And has poor record in england overall.  Good opportunity to redeem himself in WTC final.  

Pujara doesn't have to prove to anyone his dedication for test cricket. But for him literally putting his body into the line in Australia, we wouldn't even have been in the WTC final.

 

He has won us two of our biggest test series wins and those performances alone will give him the status of an Indian cricket, even if he doesn't score a test run from here on.

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

What exactly is wrong in a franchise signing up a young Indian batsman whose stock was on the rise. He suffered a career threatening knee injury in that 2011 IPL and has forever been hobbled by that knee surgery and the long rehab he had to undergo after it.

 

But for that injury (and another in 2009 IPL), who knows how Pujara's LOI career may have turned out to be.

first thing franchises look for is the ability to clear the field.. Pujara was never known for that even then and has remained the same all these years.. if a player is not suited for a format whats wrong in it? we dont expect pollard or russell to do well in tests and we are okay with it.  why so much softcorner for Pujara?