Oval Test: Don’t expect India seamers to do much better than England - Michael Holding on Day 5 pitch

[cricketfan28]

delusions.. since 1983.

[AuxiliA]

During the 3rd test of our 2018 Eng tour, shortly after Ajit Wadekar's death, when the Indian team was wearing black arm bands, Holding, with glee in his tone, mocked it saying they wore it for the drubbing in the previous Lord's test. Such a piece of **** he is. 

[Swag]

If I send a tweet regarding this bias would it be to Sky cricket or ECB? any idea...

Edited September 7, 2021 by Swag

[ViruDilSeKhelo]

I loved when he said Pujara is so wrong in thinking 250 lead is enough on this pitch, so why don't they declare he said and prove it. You could notice the jealousy/sadness in his voice and he said it's flat pitch, India can't dismiss them fast. Anyway we carried on to make more runs and still got them out under 250 haha. Ghar ka kala.

[G_B_]

3 hours ago, sandeep said:

 

You have to understand - England cricket scene has paid Holding handsomely for 4 decades.  Unconsciously, he's become a big 'homer' for them over the years.  And its understandable.  

 

And yes, he's historically underrated India because of the weight of his personal memories of when India were weak in test cricket.  Never mind the fact that those memories are out of date, and this has been a very different team for years.

 

 

Noticed he has  a soft corner for pak

 

See people right /natural to have biases but not to this degree.

 

 

[Suhaan]

17 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

 

Noticed he has  a soft corner for pak

 

See people right /natural to have biases but not to this degree.

 

 

Yes lol

Look at his over acting,he wants to replace Morgan Freeman someday

That narrative of his seems Caribbean version of "bhatka hua Naujavan"

Edited September 7, 2021 by Suhaan

[G_B_]

And i noticed coverage of this series is more balanced on the bbc than sky

 

Michael Vaughan likes to troll but is quick to compliment good passages of play by india.

 

Thats perfectly fine btw. 

 

Holding right to support England over India as the former is his annadata. But some of his actions and statements are beyond the pale and hide imo a visceral hate for india. Just be a bit balanced....

 

He simply could have said i feel the deck is flat so I expect a draw. 

[Sean Bradley]

32 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Yes lol

Look at his over acting,he wants to replace Morgan Freeman someday

That narrative of his seems Caribbean version of "bhatka hua Naujavan"

Overacting ke 5 Pound kaato iske. 

[Sean Bradley]

Well it's so good to feed humble pies to these Haters, Holding is racist towards Indians and always looked down upon India, and cannot fathom the fact that Indian cricket has risen so much and left West Indies Cricket way Behind, India being a part of Big Three, in Holdings eyes, India is like kal ka Launda Mere Mohalle mein aake yaha ka DADA ban gaya. 

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, G_B_ said:

 

 

Noticed he has  a soft corner for pak

 

See people right /natural to have biases but not to this degree.

 

 

yeah, I've seen that as well.

 

This is not an uncommon thing in the caribbean, where they have a bit of a edginess when it comes to India, but a softer corner for Pak.  

 

It is what it is - Holding's noticeable anti-India slant doesn't bother me,  I still like the guy.  And it all makes it sweeter when India wins.  And wins again.  

 

As we keep winning more, our tolerance for such folks will increase overall.  You guys just aren't there yet. 

[The Realist]

More than being a category A Uncle Tom (probably has a certificate on his wall) Holding is a bore and seems out of his depth as a wannabe commentator. 

 

Much prefer listening to the likes of Bishop and Dujon who actually have insights into the game rather than a bitter old fart who can't hold back the tears when his overlords lose.

Edited September 7, 2021 by The Realist

[Jay]

5 hours ago, Sean Bradley said:

Well it's so good to feed humble pies to these Haters, Holding is racist towards Indians and always looked down upon India, and cannot fathom the fact that Indian cricket has risen so much and left West Indies Cricket way Behind, India being a part of Big Three, in Holdings eyes, India is like kal ka Launda Mere Mohalle mein aake yaha ka DADA ban gaya. 

Doesn't make any sense. If anything he should be hating his white masters. So weird that man.

[nevada]

9 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

During the 3rd test of our 2018 Eng tour, shortly after Ajit Wadekar's death, when the Indian team was wearing black arm bands, Holding, with glee in his tone, mocked it saying they wore it for the drubbing in the previous Lord's test. Such a piece of **** he is. 

piece of **** with saintly pretensions. 

[nevada]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Doesn't make any sense. If anything he should be hating his white masters. So weird that man.

He must be hating them too without expressing it openly. With India, he has no compunctions whatsoever in letting his contempt known. 

 

4 hours ago, The Realist said:

More than being a category A Uncle Tom (probably has a certificate on his wall) Holding is a bore and seems out of his depth as a wannabe commentator. 

 

Much prefer listening to the likes of Bishop and Dujon who actually have insights into the game rather than a bitter old fart who can't hold back the tears when his overlords lose.

Totally! Even if you set aside his India bias, his commentary is nothing special. He is just a disgruntled bore with a terrible accent. Ian Bishop sounds crisp and clear, with good insights and positivity. Dujon is good too, and was very chill with the Indian team during his playing days. He requested and got Gavaskar 's record breaking bat as a gift. Holding is probably the only sore-loser from the 1983 batch. 

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, ViruDilSeKhelo said:

Ghar ka kala.

GKK 

[SK_IH]

Greame Swann should replace Michael Holding in SKY cricket, he can do a better Michael Holding impersonation than Mercenary Holding himself, look at the talent of the man at 0:55 & 5:00 

 

 

[TheWall]

12 hours ago, cricketfan28 said:

delusions.. since 1983.

1983 is still hurting the old man....

[DeepSpace]

Holding is biased, but no one expected India to do this. Atherton was gushing about Bumrah after the game, but even he ruled out a Indian win. Rob Key was effusive in praise for Bumrah saying this guy was something else.

[ravishingravi]

18 hours ago, New guy said:

How is Indians mocking taking a knee not the same as holding sucking up to white people and looking down at brown people, the same thing he is being mocked for?

 

Holding might be an uncle tom but we do have uncle toms of our own 

Because taking the knee is mockable and Holding is entitled to his prejudices. 

[ravishingravi]

He was not totally wrong. This was flat flat deck with no support. This was one of greatest test wins