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SDP: 51 runs, 4 wkts, is this the best performance by an Indian in T20s so far?

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

I feel our 4 bowlers should be chosen to be genuine wkt takers and not chosen for batting. hence, nos. 8-11 can all be no. 11 ability batting-wise. pandu can be 5th bowler, and hooda as 6th bowler perhaps. this way, we can play a specialist at 7 (e.g., karthik)

Yes 4 bowlers need to be all phase bowlers and wicket takers. Even specialist Spinner should be someone who can bowl in PP and death if required.That enables captain to use matchups.

 

Hooda is good but will miss out. Kohli will take that spot. Chahar or Thakur can bat at 7 .Karthik needs to be at 6

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10 minutes ago, Lord said:

Yes 4 bowlers need to be all phase bowlers and wicket takers. Even specialist Spinner should be someone who can bowl in PP and death if required.That enables captain to use matchups.

 

Hooda is good but will miss out. Kohli will take that spot. Chahar or Thakur can bat at 7 .Karthik needs to be at 6

Unfortunately, yes.

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Just now, zen said:

This time in ODIs but another performance of 3-4 wkts & 50 or more runs (71) in the 3rd ODI v Eng :dance:

 

Waiting for a 5-er & 100+ :woot:

 

100 was his for the taking today. a slightly rash shot + great catch.

 

great performance overall

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16 minutes ago, Vijy said:

100 was his for the taking today. a slightly rash shot + great catch.

 

great performance overall

 

I knew he would not get a 100 as he tends to get out or remain not out in 90s ... He could have had 4-5 100s more by now 

 

Tests: 90 odd in SA & 70 odd v AFG 

ODIs: 70 odd in CT final, a 70 & a 80 against Aus, a couple of 90s in Aus, ... 

T20s: Some 70s-80s this season in IPL (as he got an opportunity to bat in the top 3-4) 

 

PS He has a Test 100 in SL but appears as if he does not seem to care about 3 figures (so in a way refreshing attitude from an Ind batsman) ... Once he gets a few, he could rake them up (naturally without thinking about them)

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On 7/8/2022 at 7:36 AM, Lord said:

Yes 4 bowlers need to be all phase bowlers and wicket takers. Even specialist Spinner should be someone who can bowl in PP and death if required.That enables captain to use matchups.

 

Hooda is good but will miss out. Kohli will take that spot. Chahar or Thakur can bat at 7 .Karthik needs to be at 6

Actually pandya is an all phase bowler now , so u can afford the 3rd seamer to be 2 or 1 phase bowler 

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His greatest attributes apart from atheltic ability is his mental fortitude and fighting spirit. He has that never say die attitude. He will definitely win us an icc tournament. Will be shocked if he doesn't.

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54 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Actually pandya is an all phase bowler now , so u can afford the 3rd seamer to be 2 or 1 phase bowler 

The team balance hurts when we rely on Pandya as a bowler. That’s what happened in the last WT20 as the bowling team was not bowling as a team . He has to bowl regularly at least 5 overs in ODI or 3 in T20s as a bowler , not a part-timer. 

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10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

The team balance hurts when we rely on Pandya as a bowler. That’s what happened in the last WT20 as the bowling team was not bowling as a team . He has to bowl regularly at least 5 overs in ODI or 3 in T20s as a bowler , not a part-timer. 

Last Wc he didnt bowl and they knew what they were taking, 4 bowler and batsman didnt do the job so pandya bowling or not wudnt have made any difference 

With all rounder injuries are far to often now sad we dont have bowling options like england- australia have for injury prone guys like stokes-marsh

 

 

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23 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

The team balance hurts when we rely on Pandya as a bowler. That’s what happened in the last WT20 as the bowling team was not bowling as a team . He has to bowl regularly at least 5 overs in ODI or 3 in T20s as a bowler , not a part-timer. 

 

Hardik was used as the 3rd pacer + 5th bowler earlier.

 

Won't work because of his fitness  + lack of consistency  (  earlier )

 

Now he is being used as the 4th pacer + 6th bowler.

 

This is perfect.  No real responsibility as a bowler but if it works then the returns can be great.

 

It's greatly helping matters that Hardik, the bowler, is much more mature now.

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24 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Hardik was used as the 3rd pacer + 5th bowler earlier.

 

Won't work because of his fitness  + lack of consistency  (  earlier )

 

Now he is being used as the 4th pacer + 6th bowler.

 

This is perfect.  No real responsibility as a bowler but if it works then the returns can be great.

 

It's greatly helping matters that Hardik, the bowler, is much more mature now.

Absolutely right, where Hardik has now helped us is eliminating the need for 6th bowler.
This has coincided with an improvement in hardik the batter, playing with much more assurance than he previously used to.

I think this is what Hardik really is, a proper batter who can bowl 5-6 overs in ODI and 2-3 overs in T20's on most days. This gives our bowling less dependency on the main 5 bowlers, and if anyone has a bad day, Hardik is able to cover up for it successfully.

Hardik has been compared to Stokes in the past, now he's playing the exact role.

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On 7/18/2022 at 7:32 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Actually pandya is an all phase bowler now , so u can afford the 3rd seamer to be 2 or 1 phase bowler 

Doubt he can bowl in death.May have variation but to nail yorker regularly and stay calm in carnage is required in death.

 

I'd rather have another all phase pacer(Avesh/Arshdeep/Nattu) and use Pandya in specific situations.Specially considering fitness in mind.

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9 hours ago, Lord said:

Doubt he can bowl in death.May have variation but to nail yorker regularly and stay calm in carnage is required in death.

 

I'd rather have another all phase pacer(Avesh/Arshdeep/Nattu) and use Pandya in specific situations.Specially considering fitness in mind.

in death u can do with hard length and variations , dnt use him as main death guy but if needed not at all bad guy 

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Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

in death u can do with hard length and variations , dnt use him as main death guy but if needed not at all bad guy 

Yeah if needed he can do the job obviously. But I won't take the main bowler as 2 phase bowler unless really dependable or can bat at 7-8(talking about pacers).

 

Pandya's main job with ball is to cover for whoever has bad day (and almost every game there's one)

 

 

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9 hours ago, Lord said:

Yeah if needed he can do the job obviously. But I won't take the main bowler as 2 phase bowler unless really dependable or can bat at 7-8(talking about pacers).

 

Pandya's main job with ball is to cover for whoever has bad day (and almost every game there's one)

 

 

yea no needed , anyways all bumrah, harshal, bhuvi do that job well so it wont come down to pandya

bhuvi+bumrah have covered all bases anyways so 3rd player shud be used to add more edge like Umran (but pandya is doing that job), Left armer - may be nattu or arshdeep or harshal who is a completely diff bowler or even thakur who ll be handy on some grounds

 

Those 2 and pandya have opened so many options for us 

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