Che Pujara vs Ian Bell : who was a better batsman?

[maniac]

Not as crazy of a comparison as one thinks 
 

Pujara 103 tests 7195 runs 19 100’s  35 50’s average 43.70 s/r 44.36

 

Ian Bell 118 tests 7727 runs 22 100’s  46 50’s average 42.69 s/r 49.46

 

Pujara won test series  in Australia 

 

Bell was part of wins in Australia, Subcontinent (Ind, SL) etc.

 

Why is Pujara undroppable and we don’t even know when Ian Bell retired ?

[vvvslaxman]

I think PUjara has more match losing efforts.

[BlueBlood]

Ian Bell retired when he knew his time was up.

 

Pujara still holds on even when he is 10% of his prime.

 

Plus Ian Bell is a team player who doesn't suck all the balls and rotates strike.

 

Pujara just wastes balls and puts the batsman on the other side under pressure.

 

The only good thing about him is he knows his limitations and focused on tests while Ian Bell played ODI's regularly

[sage]

Ian Bell was genuinely a very elegant player and good to watch

[sage]

Bell underperformed massively compared to his potential 

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

Not as crazy of a comparison as one thinks 
 

Pujara 103 tests 7195 runs 19 100’s  35 50’s average 43.70 s/r 44.36

 

Ian Bell 118 tests 7727 runs 22 100’s  46 50’s average 42.69 s/r 49.46

 

Pujara won test series  in Australia 

 

Bell was part of wins in Australia, Subcontinent (Ind, SL) etc.

 

Why is Pujara undroppable and we don’t even know when Ian Bell retired ?

I am not zen, but I would say that chepu is comfortably ahead. much of bell's career was in the decade of flatter pitches (they started to get spicier close to end of 2010s), and he didn't really have marquee series. in pujara's case, he was a beast in SC for much of his career, and has that 2018 Oz tour (plus one very good SA tour and decent 2021 Oz tour).

[zen]

Bell or Dell or whoever, who cares. The Count Pujara is the most impactful Indian batsman since the 1990  

 

And a must in my Ind AT 11 to bring that Steve Waughesque qualities to the line up  

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, zen said:

Bell or Dell or whoever, who cares. The Count Pujara is the most impactful Indian batsman since the 1990  

 

And a must in my Ind AT 11 to bring that Steve Waughesque qualities to the line up  

Yup, he has faced most of impact on his body instead of bat during the Auzzie tour of 2020-21.

 

On a serious note, VVS, Dravid, Sachin, Sehwag were the most impactful batters from 90's...Pujara will come after them. Though he is more impactful than Ganguly, Gambhir (debatable).

[Sean Bradley]

Glad that op has admitted to Pujara "was" a batsman!  

[Nikola]

Think Ross Taylor has similar average, hundreds to pujara. If he keeps declining at same rate then soon comparison would be with Azhar Ali.

[goose]

I can’t think straight on the matter of Bell ever since he was recalled by Dhoni in that test. 

[Frustrated]

There is no comparison between a genuine match winner like Bell and a nightwatchman like Discount Duckula. 

[zen]

6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yup, he has faced most of impact on his body instead of bat during the Auzzie tour of 2020-21.

 

On a serious note, VVS, Dravid, Sachin, Sehwag were the most impactful batters from 90's...Pujara will come after them. Though he is more impactful than Ganguly, Gambhir (debatable).

Nah! (Just the 2018 series carries the impact weightage of multiple  series wins in SENA. Even if key won series in SENA of other batsmen are combined, they would struggle to come close)!

 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by zen

[Frustrated]

Can someone pls post a screenshot of that dismissal of Duckula in the 2nd inning where he tried to do a SKY?    Only to allow a catching practice to Carey.  

[Stan AF]

1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

There is no comparison between a genuine match winner like Bell and a nightwatchman like Discount Duckula. 

I love this nickname

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Can someone pls post a screenshot of that dismissal of Duckula in the 2nd inning where he tried to do a SKY?    Only to allow a catching practice to Carey.  

Intent merchant 

[Chakdephatte]

Did you use the word 'was' for Pujara?

[rkt.india]

15 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

Ian Bell retired when he knew his time was up.

 

Pujara still holds on even when he is 10% of his prime.

 

Plus Ian Bell is a team player who doesn't suck all the balls and rotates strike.

 

Pujara just wastes balls and puts the batsman on the other side under pressure.

 

The only good thing about him is he knows his limitations and focused on tests while Ian Bell played ODI's regularly

Pujara does not play T20s or ODIs, so, how the batsman on the other side comes under pressure?

[Majestic]

In tests, Pujara is better.

 

Bell remained in the shadow of other great England batsman and was mostly a good support batsman but when he had to lead the batting in absence of KP and Cook losing his form post 2013, his batting got exposed.

[Norman]

Bell was one of the most elegant stroke makers I've watched. 

 

OTOH, watching Pujara bat is the equivalent of dragging your balls on hot sand.