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Why didn’t Tendulkar retire after WC2011?

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23 minutes ago, Franco Vazquez said:

Why didn’t he retire after the WC? It’s kinda hypocritical of Tenda’s fans to be asking Dhoni to retire when their FAVOURITE didn’t retire at the right time even though he was a shadow of himself after the WC

Why didn't Dhoni retire after 2015 WC. Dhoni has stayed 3 years too many. Tendulkar was our top scorer in 2011 WC and was performing as good as any. Why would he have retired if he was doing well. While Dhoni has lost us umpteenth games in last 3 years.

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22 minutes ago, Franco Vazquez said:

It’s kinda hypocritical of Tenda’s fans to be asking Dhoni to retire when their FAVOURITE didn’t retire at the right time even though he was a shadow of himself after the WC

That's just BS, he was the world's best batter in 2010/11 including tests! When have you seen any batter retire just after achieving his highest high? Fact is he played in the IPL unnecessarily, got exhausted (injured?) & skipped the WI tour - that was IMO his biggest mistake! Then came the England series & it all went downhill, the hype of 100th ton especially by the media brought about his downfall. However he was still our best/2nd best batter down under & then continued in tests probably because Dravid, VVS retired at the same time. Now you could argue, whether he should've played till the 200th test but that's where the selectors come in. Also before you bring in Dravid & VVS check their test records since 2007, except England 2011 Dravid failed in most series & VVS only had a handful of good innings himself.

 

Dhongi hasn't been anywhere near his best since 2014, there's no comparison here! People still bitching about SRT even though it's Dhongi who's screwed nearly an entire generation of youngsters because of his greed, how lame :hmpf:

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The reasons

 

(a) Sachin won the world cup in 2011 in which he was a top scorer. MSD had a poor WC.

 

(b) Sachin had already retired from T20. There is a fear MSD wants to play T20 WC in Aus in 2020. 

 

(c) He played 10 matches only after the WC in 2011. Most of them were in a tri series v SL and Aus. Have no issues if MSD decides he is going to retire after say the WI series. 

 

One can argue that Sachin overstayed his welcome in the test arena. But not LOI. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sachin scored over 400 runs with 2 centuries in that wc.And he hardly played ODIs after that, Even in his last ODI he scored 50 runs against Pakistan..Comparing present time Dhongi to that time Sachin is ridiculous.Sachin prolonged his test career for 2 years and still played few good looking innings during those years unlike Dhongi who requires cushion of his PR circulating nonsense like advice, experience and not to forget that sucking from captain.

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52 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Why didn't Dhoni retire after 2015 WC. Dhoni has stayed 3 years too many. Tendulkar was our top scorer in 2011 WC and was performing as good as any. Why would he have retired if he was doing well. While Dhoni has lost us umpteenth games in last 3 years.

+1.. Dhongi should have retired after 2015. If at all his PR & mai-baaps in BCCI have helped him stay for 4 more years

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1 hour ago, Franco Vazquez said:

Why didn’t he retire after the WC? It’s kinda hypocritical of Tenda’s fans to be asking Dhoni to retire when their FAVOURITE didn’t retire at the right time even though he was a shadow of himself after the WC

Tendulkar’s 5 year deal with his endorsement management company was ending in 2013. So his “love” for cricket was actually fulfilling sponsor’s obligations be it at the cost of a promising player.

 

Then 100 100’s bhi radar mein tha.

 

In India star power triumphs national priority  and interest when you are Sachin Tendulkar.

 

he should have been politely dropped after 2011 WC like Dhoni will be asked to retire politely now 

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Yeah 100th 100 may be another reason but I doubt he would have retired right after being top scorer in World cup for us.

 

But Sachin did not hamper the progress and transition of the team.

He played 10 ODIs after the world cup.

Scored a 48 ball 53 in a crunch game against Pakistan in his last game. Shows how good he was even in the decline.

Also if you see 2007-11 period he played 30-40% of our ODIs. Rest he skipped by himself so that we can try youngsters and a smooth transition happens.

 

Compare this to Dhoni who has been poor since 2016 and has been dying to play even T20s in which he has always been crap.

 

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Sachin hardly played Odis before the World Cup and as others have said he only played 11 out of the 29 Odis from the WC final until his retirement. So india had plenty of time to groom his retirement. 

 

And here you have the leech thala. Our most capped t20 player who has played 3 good innings in 12 years not even letting newcomers keep. 

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3 hours ago, Franco Vazquez said:

Why didn’t he retire after the WC? It’s kinda hypocritical of Tenda’s fans to be asking Dhoni to retire when their FAVOURITE didn’t retire at the right time even though he was a shadow of himself after the WC

In 2011 he was no 1 batsmen in icc ranking...also was the highest run scorer after dilshan in that wc....what a rich comeback from thala fan to linking tendulkar with him. Thala is the most selfish cricketer who has past his expiry in 15 wc itself.

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3 hours ago, Kiraisjustice said:

Because sachin is God and he can do whatever he wants, thala doesnt get that privlege.. Also sachin at the end of his career was still better than tuk tuk thala

 

he could do whatever he wants , but he decided to suck :giggle:

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1 hour ago, Stan AF said:

Fcuk with all this why tendulkar didnt retire ****.. Question is we should be asking is why selectors haven't dropped dhoni yet?

For thaili fan anyone asking for thaili retirement are sachin fan.....

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22 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Sachin hardly played Odis before the World Cup and as others have said he only played 11 out of the 29 Odis from the WC final until his retirement. So india had plenty of time to groom his retirement. 

 

 

dhoni overstayed in odis and t20s..

sachin in tests

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2 hours ago, New guy said:

1)Sachin was in great form and actually helped win the world cup

 

2) he clearly said he didn't want to distract from the teams world cup win, if he has decided to retire all the talk would be of his retirement and not the win

 

He retired well within a year 

tests ?

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Sachin decided to overstay because he was thinking he could play next World Cup in 2015 and hence tried to prolong his career by skipping series and then playing odd series here and there. However, when he came back after skipping few series, he was very rusty and played slow, bit same what Dhoni is doing now even after playing in every series. Seeing his own form a bit rusty, Tendulkar decided to quit mid way instead of trying to go to 2015 World Cup. That itself is a huge credit to Tendulkar that he had the realization to quit before he reaches 2015 World Cup. Nothing wrong in what Tendulkar did there, he gave himself chance, but moment he realized he wasn't good enough for ODI team, he quit. Thats a team player.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Sachin decided to overstay because he was thinking he could play next World Cup in 2015 and hence tried to prolong his career by skipping series and then playing odd series here and there. However, when he came back after skipping few series, he was very rusty and played slow, bit same what Dhoni is doing now even after playing in every series. Seeing his own form a bit rusty, Tendulkar decided to quit mid way instead of trying to go to 2015 World Cup. That itself is a huge credit to Tendulkar that he had the realization to quit before he reaches 2015 World Cup. Nothing wrong in what Tendulkar did there, he gave himself chance, but moment he realized he wasn't good enough for ODI team, he quit. Thats a team player.

 

He was never going to play 2015 worldcup. He played odi cricket for 100th ton which i believe any player will do when they are on 99 international hundred and just 1 century away from setting great record. If he would have retired on 99 he would have been cursing himself for whole his life so i don't see anything wrong in what he did. When you are so close to something which is once in lifetime opportunity then i think you should get it. It was not that he played another worldcup with poor form just for his 100th odi ton. He got it and played 1 more match and retired from odis. Dhoni has been playing worse cricket than sachin since 2015 but still he played for 4 years and risked our chances of worldcup as well.

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4 minutes ago, Nikola said:

He was never going to play 2015 worldcup. He played odi cricket for 100th ton which i believe any player will do when they are on 99 international hundred and just 1 century away from setting great record. If he would have retired on 99 he would have been cursing himself for whole his life so i don't see anything wrong in what he did. When you are so close to something which is once in lifetime opportunity then i think you should get it. It was not that he played another worldcup with poor form just for his 100th odi ton. He got it and played 1 more match and retired from odis. Dhoni has been playing worse cricket than sachin since 2015 but still he played for 4 years and risked our chances of worldcup as well.

May be, regardless, he did surprise many though the moment he called it quits, as many Bhats wanted to see him in 2015 also. But it was good on Tendulkar to put team ahead of himself first. Every player wants to play the World Cup, the more the better, and Tendulkar was all about winning world cups, so him skipping 2015 as well as 2007 world t20 for the sake of the team, for me was brilliant on his part.

 

Dhoni has overstayed, and I am sure he has retired already just that announcement hasn't come in. Now just hoping Kohi is also not the captain of the LOI team so we can move forward and start all fresh. 

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3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Why didn't Dhoni retire after 2015 WC. Dhoni has stayed 3 years too many. Tendulkar was our top scorer in 2011 WC and was performing as good as any. Why would he have retired if he was doing well. While Dhoni has lost us umpteenth games in last 3 years.

The 100th hundred baggage sunk him. He was in superb form and looked all set to play a year or two scoring a lot more runs.

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53 minutes ago, The Hound said:

Because he had to go for 100th 100 and 200 test matches.  Personal milestones afterall  :hmm:

Good thing thala has been playing for the Indian team in t20s since 2007. Look at all those amazing innings :adore:

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1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

Sachin decided to overstay because he was thinking he could play next World Cup in 2015 and hence tried to prolong his career by skipping series and then playing odd series here and there. However, when he came back after skipping few series, he was very rusty and played slow, bit same what Dhoni is doing now even after playing in every series. Seeing his own form a bit rusty, Tendulkar decided to quit mid way instead of trying to go to 2015 World Cup. That itself is a huge credit to Tendulkar that he had the realization to quit before he reaches 2015 World Cup. Nothing wrong in what Tendulkar did there, he gave himself chance, but moment he realized he wasn't good enough for ODI team, he quit. Thats a team player.

 

Dude he was never going to play the 2015 World Cup. Come on now. He was already playing for 20 years. There was no way he would have played 2015 even if India didn’t win the 2011 WC.

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40 minutes ago, Kiraisjustice said:

:hysterical:finally thala fans waking up to reality

His chief cheerleader for Dhoni contract must have been till WC only. No idea whether it will be renewed or not.

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Cause he had his 100th ton coming up... Not supporting Sachin, but at least he had something to look forward to.

 

Why does Dhoni want to stay? What does he want to achieve by staying on? except find newer ways to lunge and choke.

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I liked Dhoni upto a point.  He was one of the chief architect of making India a gun chasing unit. But with Tendulkar it was mostly fans that supported him through thick and thin during the later part of his career.  He had some level of PR machinary going for him. Mostly former Mumbai players. But With Dhoni it is a completely different level. His PR machinery is far more powerful. ICC, BCCI, Indian players, former players, fans, even players from other countries, retired players from other countries. His brand is far more powerful. Highly commercial. This is why someone like Dhoni has survived this long. If it were upto Gauti, Dhoni would have been long gone.

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7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I liked Dhoni upto a point.  He was one of the chief architect of making India a gun chasing unit. But with Tendulkar it was mostly fans that supported him through thick and thin during the later part of his career.  He had some level of PR machinary going for him. Mostly former Mumbai players. But. with Dhoni it is a completely different level. His PR machinery is far more powerful. ICC, BCCI, Indian players, former players, fans, even players from other countries, retired players from other countries. His brand is far more powerful. Highly commercial. This is why someone like Dhoni has survived this long. If it were upto Gauti, Dhoni would have been long gone.

 

Add celebrities. Senile people

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/news/after-lata-mangeshkars-request-ms-dhoni-not-retire-javed-akhtar-shares-his-views-check-it-out-461650

 

 

 

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