India cap is not cheap- players like Dube devalue it

[maniac]

We seem to induct  anyone and everyone in the team even if it is only the T20 format. 
 

Players have to come through a grind, u-19,FC,A and B teams and then maybe as a last criteria IPl.

 

These performances have to be taken on a weighted average.

 

Just because a player bowled a couple of 140k deliveries and hit a couple of slogs  doesn’t mean he is rewarded with the india cap. It is too sacred.

 

There are plenty of players who have worked hard, performed day in and out waiting on the wings and trash like this gets rewarded

 

Edited November 3, 2019 by maniac

[Vk1]

When half the players don't play most of the time due to injuries, rest and getting ready for IPL, you will see lot of second level players Ike khaleel, krunal, Dube etc..

[maniac]

Just now, Vk1 said:

When half the players don't play most of the time due to injuries, rest and getting ready for IPL, you will see lot of second level players Ike khaleel, krunal, Dube etc..

Khaleel was atleast a u-19 Star. Same goes for Sundar Yes they might be mediocre but atleast May be benefit of doubt that selectors saw raw ability.

 

Krunal Pandya gets a free ride based on few IPL performances. Injustice to all those spinners who have toiled hard at every level and sure they can hack a few as well.

 

Dube too hasn’t done much to move ahead of the pecking order.

[express bowling]

Dube is primarily a batsman who bowls a bit.

 

He averages 48+ in FC cricket.

 

And has a SR of 140 in T20s.

 

And has performed in List A for India A.

 

He has come up the ranks with solid performances.

[putrevus]

Very unfair on this guy.He needs to get more macthes.Guys like Khaleel and Krunal playing for India is a joke.

Edited November 3, 2019 by putrevus

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Dube is primarily a batsman who bowls a bit.

 

He averages 48+ in FC cricket.

 

And has a SR of 140 in T20s.

 

And has performed in List A for India A.

 

He has come up the ranks with solid performances.

If you are telling me there is no better bat than Dube in domestics that is a scary thought.

 

As far as him rolling his arm over for 135+ for a couple of overs, that is no big deal.

 

Who would be easier to face, A Dinda bowling at 140 or Anderson bowling at 132-135 or even a Philander

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Dube is yet to get a fair chance.

While KL Rahul has infinite chances.

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[maniac]

What fair chance. You are just thrown in for the sake of it because you fit a certain mould is not fair in my book. There is a system through which players come through the ranks.

 

India is not Pakistan that they give anyone a debut based on tailunt or Srilanka where everyone debuts because of the lack of resources.

Edited November 3, 2019 by maniac

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

What fair chance. You are just thrown in for the sake of it because you fit a certain mould is not fair in my book. There is a system through which players come through the ranks.

 

India is not Pakistan that they give anyone a debut based on tailunt or Srilanka where everyone debuts because of the lack of resources.

I think Nitish Rana is hard done. He deserves a look.  

[ShoonyaSifar]

We are stuck with useless Dhawan In T20s for last 6-7 years and yet you are picking on a guy who was on debut today!

[Ankit_sharma03]

Srsly he just played 4-5 balls 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Ppl want youngsters in team and then tehy also dont have patience for few games

[Real McCoy]

India cap is not cheap? How come this guy got a look in?

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

30 minutes ago, maniac said:

If you are telling me there is no better bat than Dube in domestics that is a scary thought.

Yup please go ahead n find me lower order batsman who can strike me for ball-1

the only ones are hardik, DK, SKY, Dube

 

U knw of anyone else ??

 

[maniac]

Just now, Real McCoy said:

India cap is not cheap? How come this guy got a look in?

 

 

He was a very good test player. Has a 200 vs aussies and dare I say leagues ahead of players like Dube and Pandya. Speaking in the context of the eras they played. Was a selfish cricketer but he had some epic performances in domestics and even at international cricket.

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ppl want youngsters in team and then tehy also dont have patience for few games

No one complains when guys like Pant,Shaw,Gill or if Tomorrow guys like Abhishek Sharma, Mavi,Nagarkoti get a shot. 
 

Even Samson is fine.

 

As mediocre as Khaleel is, I was ok that he got a run or someone like Siraj.

[maniac]

18 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

We are stuck with useless Dhawan In T20s for last 6-7 years and yet you are picking on a guy who was on debut today!

Dhawan is useless in T20s  but has been a star performer for india. He deserves is original shot at the Indian team.

 

Dube just walks in because he slogs a few and was measured bowling a few at 135ks with no skill.

 

Thats the difference.

 

Yes Dhawan needs to go as well.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, maniac said:

No one complains when guys like Pant,Shaw,Gill or if Tomorrow guys like Abhishek Sharma, Mavi,Nagarkoti get a shot. 
 

Even Samson is fine.

 

As mediocre as Khaleel is, I was ok that he got a run or someone like Siraj.

him being mediocre is ur opinion doesnt make a player actually that, if u give a chance to anyone be fair ateast

He did enough to earn his place - performed everywhere....cant judge on few balls on a pitch on which everyone was struggling for timing 

 

Pant, shaw, gill are top order batsman hence they look compact ....guys like dube have to play a diff game which why they may not look veyr pleasing but they are in team for a role not to please eyes

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Dhawan is useless in T20s  but has been a star performer for india. He deserves is original shot at the Indian team.

 

Dube just walks in because he slogs a few and was measured bowling a few at 135ks with no skill.

He didnt slog n walk  in 

he played very good knocks in Domestic , India-A 50 over n long format both winning team in tough situation

 

Slogging is what tailender does.....when u win ur team again n again in tough situations thats not blind slogging. 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He didnt slog n walk  in 

he played very good knocks in Domestic , India-A 50 over n long format both winning team in tough situation

 

Slogging is what tailender does.....when u win ur team again n again in tough situations thats not blind slogging. 

 

 

Can you name the teams he performed against?

 

If there is no better player than Dube in the middle- lower middle order than sorry to say Indian cricket is heading for disaster