ShoonyaSifar Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Will the BCCI shed it’s pampering of Kohli (like it did after the WC). Will any of our experts on BCCI payroll or in the media raise the right questions about the 1st test surrender by asking the right questions from Kohli-Shastri about their deeply flawed strategy (if there was one)? Fans need to know Why did Saha suddenly become the 2nd best keeper in the squad? Why Pant was picked for this test after being benched all tour and the coach having publicly spoken about his poor keeping skills? Which team plays a sub standard keeper (as per the coach and captain) in Tests? How did the TM suddenly lose faith in Jadeja’s all round ability? Why did we play 5 specialist bowlers at home vs weak opponents but went back to 4 specialist bowlers with two of them coming back from injuries and the 3rd one a proven failure in SENA on multiple tours? Why was the home season not used to groom a single young player - batsman or bowler. Does the TM see Vihari and Pant as SENA specialists? Is there any justification for them not being good enough for home tests but expecting them to do well in far tougher conditions? And last, why was Bumrah played in useless LOIs when he could well have bowled 15-18 overs per day in A team Tests to get back his rhythm. Are LOIs more important for this TM than tests? The captain’s PR mafia will obviously not let such questions to be asked and will find some other topic for distracting. But if the BCCI has long term interest of Indian cricket as a focus, it should not treat this as just another loss. Cricspin, Cricwala, Sandeep99 and 6 others 1 4 4
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 Can the mods please change the title to “...ODIs and Test debacle”
bowl_out Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Your first four points are irrelevant and hardly the cause of the loss. Batting lost us the game. Why no new batsman was groomed during the home season. And why none of our supposed Test specialist batsmen were able to deliver is the question
Gollum Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 BCCI and accountability Unstable Joe, FischerTal, Rightarmfast and 2 others 4 1
sergio04 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 No. Why they would hurt brand kohli which earns bcci billions. Cricwala, nevada and Bhaiyya 1 2
ganeshran Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Dada will hold them accountable after the WC T20.
Nikola Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Lol loosing Worldcup didn't do anything then this 'irrelevant' series doesn't matter much. I doubt anything will change unless we loose both t20 worldcup and 2023 wc badly. Edited February 24, 2020 by Nikola Rasgulla and Vk1 1 1
Vk1 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 since the cricket watching aam aadmi in general hasn't evolved much and are still stuck in mid 90s mindset.. bcci would say team is on top of rankings and brush it off as an aberration.. and to be fair this team has done really well in tests since Eng series till this defeat
Norman Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nikola said: Lol loosing Worldcup didn't do anything then this 'irrelevant' series doesn't matter much. I doubt anything will change unless we loose both t20 worldcup and 2023 wc badly. Lol what would be even there to change after that ? Brat would be done and dusted by then and he'll surely retire after 2023 WC irrespective of the result.
Nikola Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Norman said: Lol what would be even there to change after that ? Brat would be done and dusted by then and he'll surely retire after 2023 WC irrespective of the result. Highly doubt he will retire after 2023 wc. He will surely play for year or two and if he is fit he might play 2027 wc as well. Rasgulla 1
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Your first four points are irrelevant and hardly the cause of the loss. Batting lost us the game. Why no new batsman was groomed during the home season. And why none of our supposed Test specialist batsmen were able to deliver is the question Jadeja at 6, Saha as the 1st choice keeper, 3 pacers and 2 spinners was clearly the home series team combo and going by the talk at that time, sounded like the long term plan as well. Kohli-Shastri gave no indication of changing the strategy for NZ. At the last minute, if there is such massive shuffling of players, it shows a complete lack of planning and preparation, creates panic in the dressing room and affects even stable players mentally. A trend we had got used to seeing on away tours.
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nikola said: Lol loosing Worldcup didn't do anything then this 'irrelevant' series doesn't matter much. I doubt anything will change unless we loose both t20 worldcup and 2023 wc badly. Only difference between July 2019 and now is Dada as BCCI Chief. If there is one man who can take on Kohli’s PR mafia, it’s him. That is our only hope. Question now is wether Dada will focus on ICC battles or go about professionalising the team leadership, which clearly has become a den of yesmen and sidekicks. Edited February 24, 2020 by ShoonyaSifar Cricwala and Norman 2
Cricwala Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Won't happen after this series. But if we fail to win T20 WC, lose AUS series and Test championship final too, then maybe.
Norman Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Nikola said: Highly doubt he will retire after 2023 wc. He will surely play for year or two and if he is fit he might play 2027 wc as well. He'll be 35 by then and way past his peak. Besides, he is a top order batsman, so he can't hide in the team like Thala did for 4 years. With so many young batsman waiting in the wings , pressure will be huge on him to either let the spot go or retire. The megalomaniac he is, he won't do the latter and most likely retire and do some Bollywood krap.
Gollum Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Time for Dada to walk the talk. Either justify your reputation or forever be known as a jabroni. Edited February 24, 2020 by Gollum SK_IH and Bhaiyya 2
Stan AF Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 I'm not holding my breath on any accountability being taken.
Sean Bradley Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Ghanta Accountable, sadly in our country, when a cricketer does exceptionally well, we give him the status of God, slowly the God starts growing big, so big that he becomes bigger than the Game, but we forget that the God is just like us, someday when God doesn't meet all your hopes and expectations, we vent our anger on social platforms. Kohli is God, Shastri is his Poojari, they can only fade away to make way for new Gods. India as a country desperately needs football as a major sport, only then these over paid over hyped cricketers will know their true aukaat. Edited February 24, 2020 by Sean Bradley zen, Turning_track, sergio04 and 1 other 4
Suhaan Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Even in Pakistan they blast their players on tv,there should be room for criticism,we have got bots who sing praises for these fake heroes Since Dhoni took over ,those debates, criticism have vanished,their PR mafia have become Monsters zen and sergio04 2
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