vvvslaxman 14,459 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 This contributes to these tense matches. India wasted 10 balls because of it. Look at England no.10 was able to stick around. Unless our bowlers are absolute gun bowlers there is no excuse for not having the ability to stick around. Link to post
R!TTER 3,230 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Like I said in the other thread - they bat like a d*** is in their hands Rasgulla and SrinjayDutta 1 1 Link to post
ShoonyaSifar 4,433 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Unless we start promoting those multidimensional players, how is the culture going to develop. Is there any justification for Sundar warming the benches and us having to rely on someone who was declared as not fit to bowl just 24 hours back Link to post
IndianRenegade 701 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Unless we start promoting those multidimensional players, how is the culture going to develop. Is there any justification for Sundar warming the benches and us having to rely on someone who was declared as not fit to bowl just 24 hours back Hardik is a better ODI bat than Sundar, Kurnal’s inclusion is more confusing not withstanding his 50 on debut. Sundar might have played better with the tail, it’s criminal we couldn’t play 50 overs today. how much batting does our tail do in nets? Does the batting coach even work on their batting? Link to post
vvvslaxman 14,459 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 This is the same case in Tests as well. They don't last more than 4 or 5 balls. Link to post
Jay 442 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 *ing ridiculous. Piece of shots need to learn how to swing. Link to post
The Realist 7,218 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 In this day & age absolutely no excuse for not being able to at least defend and block. Most other teams now have negligible tails but Ind seem to promote one dimensional players. Unless the bowler is a game changer they should be told that have to be able to bat. Play only those who can and the message will soon get through. Link to post
jf1gp_1 1,752 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Why not reverse argument of not one batsman having ability to contribute with ball. Even someone like Sachin was such a useful bowler. Virat used to bowl but has stopped. Rohit I can understand. What about others? If bowlers should know how to bat then batsmen should know how to pitch in with few overs. kruiser and GautiMaan 2 Link to post
zen 11,403 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Top 8 should be doing the job more often than not ... 9-10-11, we want them to focus the most on their primary skill. If they can bat well in some of the games where they get opportunities, great, but it would not be something that would give any captain sleepless night express bowling 1 Link to post
Serpico 1,240 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Why not reverse argument of not one batsman having ability to contribute with ball. Even someone like Sachin was such a useful bowler. Virat used to bowl but has stopped. Rohit I can understand. What about others? If bowlers should know how to bat then batsmen should know how to pitch in with few overs. I mean our bowlers cant even put the bat on the ball. I would say kohli/rohit's bowling is still better than prasidh/nattu's batting wc2023 1 Link to post
jf1gp_1 1,752 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Serpico said: I mean our bowlers cant even put the bat on the ball. I would say kohli/rohit's bowling is still better than prasidh/nattu's batting Would love to see Kohli Rohit bowl to likes of Roy in pp1 or butter or stokes in death over. Clarke and express bowling 1 1 Link to post
express bowling 44,319 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 bowlers should be picked based on their bowling skills only. We need wicket taking bowlers. If top 8 batsmen cannot do the job then we are not picking the right batsmen ... And putting the blame of their ineptitude on the specialist bowlers. 5. Batsman-keeper 6. Batting all-rounder 7. Batting all-rounder 8. Bowling all-rounder 9. Bowler 10. Bowler 11. Bowler No.8 should be a good bowler too. Ankit_sharma03, Cricspin, OpeningBatsman and 2 others 2 3 Link to post
Majestic 339 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, express bowling said: 3 bowlers should be picked based on their bowling skills only. We need wicket taking bowlers. If top 8 batsmen cannot do the job then we are not picking the right batsmen ... And putting the blame of their ineptitude on the specialist bowlers. 5. Batsman-keeper 6. Batting all-rounder 7. Batting all-rounder 8. Bowling all-rounder 9. Bowler 10. Bowler 11. Bowler No.8 should be a good bowler too. I would suggest 6. Hardik Pandya 7. Ravindra Jadeja 8. Shardul Thakur 9. Ravichandran Ashwin 10. Bhuvaneswar Kumar/ Mohammad Shami 11. Jasprit Bumrah Cricspin and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to post
Majestic 339 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 11 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Why not reverse argument of not one batsman having ability to contribute with ball. Even someone like Sachin was such a useful bowler. Virat used to bowl but has stopped. Rohit I can understand. What about others? If bowlers should know how to bat then batsmen should know how to pitch in with few overs. The thing is in this era of batting wickets, Tendulkar or Sehwag or Raina will still go for plenty of runs. So, part time bowlers don't work in this era but part time batsman are required because part time batters can stay at crease and score 15-20 useful runs and give support to the better batsman who is staying at crease. Part time bowlers may go for 20 runs in a over and the whole momentum will be shifted by that. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to post
jf1gp_1 1,752 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 14 hours ago, Majestic said: The thing is in this era of batting wickets, Tendulkar or Sehwag or Raina will still go for plenty of runs. So, part time bowlers don't work in this era but part time batsman are required because part time batters can stay at crease and score 15-20 useful runs and give support to the better batsman who is staying at crease. Part time bowlers may go for 20 runs in a over and the whole momentum will be shifted by that. In current era I believe to win you need specialist. Bowler has to be picked because of his bowling skills and not because he can bat a bit. Link to post
Trichromatic 5,797 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: In current era I believe to win you need specialist. Bowler has to be picked because of his bowling skills and not because he can bat a bit. Batting a bit is different than blocking 4 balls at end. Link to post
jf1gp_1 1,752 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 15 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Batting a bit is different than blocking 4 balls at end. Same goes For batsman who can't learn to bowl a stock ball and ensuring one of middle over doesnt go for more than 7. Link to post
Vilander 10,878 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/29/2021 at 9:35 PM, jf1gp_1 said: Rohit I can understand ? What happened Link to post
Serpico 1,240 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 12 hours ago, Vilander said: ? What happened Rotator cuffs Vilander 1 Link to post
Ankit_sharma03 23,344 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 10-11 shud have bowling ability thats it, if they can bat its a bonus. Just becoz england have it dnt copy it. 10-11 may come in play once in blue moon but bowlers will come in play every game Link to post