Why ICF is obsessed with youngsters?

[Chakdephatte]

Looking at some other teams, it looks obvious that coaches and selectors across the world don't take age of players as seriously. Australia were carrying Finch and Warner at top, England had Hales and Buttler, and I don't see any criticism regarding it. And its not that they don't have Banton or Inglis waiting in the wings. In England may actually be the oldest side in the tournament.

[Chakdephatte]

Another thing is how aggression is judged by age? Are Livistone, Bairstow, Rilee, Warner any young? Do Gill, Inglis, Samson, or even Pant, play any faster than our oldies? Don't think so? It depends on one's mentality more than anything else.

[Chakdephatte]

Also, there's no fixed age for being called old. Compare Dhawan to Du Plessis and pre retirement ABD, similar age but reflexes are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

Why would a Kohli, Moeen, Warner, Malan, Rohit be dropped juat for age if they can do well?

Edited November 6, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[R!TTER]

Why do you have Khalil bromancing with Shami in your profile's pic 

[Ankit_sharma03]

People wanna see everything else apart from cricket - age , tattoos , public conduct etc etc. 

 

Age shudnt matter as long as someone is performing. Only thing that shud matter is who among two players is better. 

 

This wc shud shut this age crap but it wont 

 

Everyone wanted kohli dropped , age was one factor. 

Raza is 36 

Ifthikar ahmed has done very well for pakistan again not the age ppl like. 

Warner last yr was 35 when he took Aus to their world cup tittle . 

 

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At the end board pe performance matter karti hai. Csk has been one of the most consistent IPL teams. Experience has a great value which is proven everytime 

 

 

[Lord]

OTOH selectors and TM back eggsperience

[vvvslaxman]

Youngster is the one who is the leading wicket taker for us. 

[Chakdephatte]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Youngster is the one who is the leading wicket taker for us. 

 

And highest scorer? 

[singhvivek141]

Maybe because of the fact that our players do have a tendency to hang around despite being past of their golden period. It's actually with all subcontinent teams and not specifically India.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Lol India probably has 15 better spinners & batters in the country than Karthik & Ashwin...  That's just actual reality.   That's why people get frustrated. 

Nobody is questioning Rohit coz we know he is one of our best vs High pace..  

[Nash]

Problem with oldies are they are trying to get for in world cups.  It is not place to get form.  The process should be simple.  
play in form batsman’s only. No seniority there.  If you are not in form get back in domestic circuit get the form back and come in.  
instead we kept playing out of form oldies and youngestars are in form but wasted in domestic circuit.  
 

Prithvi Shaw could have solve our opening pair issue.  He should be there with pant instead of KL and vada paav. 

[vvvslaxman]

30 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

And highest scorer? 

 

I don't see any youngsters batting lol How would we know. SKY is no youngsters. but in terms of experience limited experience. SO he is the one kicking ass but for one super innings from Kohli.

[Ravi_Shastri]

Q ki khud budhe hogye, kuch kar nahi payel life mein.

Ab yehi gaana gaaayenge 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Ravi_Shastri

[Number]

Because they have followed Indian cricket enough what Dhoni, Karthik, Yuvraj, Jadhav, Rayudu's experience brought to Indian cricket post 2015 WC.

 

[Laaloo]

Because the last time we won T20, we infused a lot of young talent. Here we have a 35 year old ashwin, 34 year old Sharma, useless players like chahal and Patel on the bench. 

[putrevus]

28 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Because the last time we won T20, we infused a lot of young talent. Here we have a 35 year old ashwin, 34 year old Sharma, useless players like chahal and Patel on the bench. 

So why do you think it will work now?

[vvvslaxman]

50 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Because the last time we won T20, we infused a lot of young talent. Here we have a 35 year old ashwin, 34 year old Sharma, useless players like chahal and Patel on the bench. 

 

Cringeworthy aspect is we can't even use them substitute fielders. 

[coffee_rules]

47 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So why do you think it will work now?

What were young people doing since then in 09, 10, 12, 14, 16, 19 and 21?

[zen]

Depends upon the format ... Not everyone has to play every format (and when in T20s there is the prestigious IPL too) ... T20s is a good opportunity to develop youngsters, giving them the opportunity to play fearless cricket ... Current experienced players were backed too when they were youngsters. Then comes the time to move on 

 

World Cups is about the last man standing, at most the finalists. WI was the first major team (2 time winner) to crash out, Aus next, followed by SA. At the end of the day, they all crashed out (when is almost irrelevant) ... Go for teams that can either crash out or if they click can go all the way! 

Edited November 6, 2022 by zen

[Gollum]

More than that what is annoying about ICFers (not all, but many including posters I rate) is how they start overrating players on the bench or those sidelined. Suddenly Chahal is Warne 2.0, Hooda is Viv Richards (yet to see this guy connect a 140 kph ball in Indian jersey, and we saw his selfless act in Ireland)......Harshal Patel is the second coming of Malinga, Jaddu is modern era Sobers, yeah the same Jadeja who has been screwing us over in T20 WCs since 2009, in every single edition. 

 

Every single player on the bench is suddenly 10x better than the ones playing, every single player not in the squad is suddenly ATG level. Some perspective folks, maybe we aren't overflowing with other wordly talent. Sure selection has often been off radar, but to see folks here pretend this is 1979 WI or 2006 Australia that is being held back by XYZ reasons is funny, and sad at the same time. Delusional Pakistanis behave like this, talent this, X factor that but 500 excuses to explain mediocrity......expect better from our lot.