mishra Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Quote Having 2 new balls in one day cricket is a perfect recipe for disaster as each ball is not given the time to get old enough to reverse. We haven’t seen reverse swing, an integral part of the death overs, for a long time. #ENGvsAUS No spin, no reverse swing, just simple testestorone. Not taking away anything from Scotlands or English performance so far but If Scotland scores 350 against English line up. It means we better put a bowling machine UrmiSinhaRay 1
Trichromatic Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Yeah, and usually conditions aren't good enough for even new ball to swing. ICC should go back to 1 ball only rule. The Unrealist, UrmiSinhaRay and Mosher 1 2
Switchblade Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 @Rasgulla any views on this. Jimmy Cliff, The Unrealist, UrmiSinhaRay and 2 others 1 4
Mosher Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Brick back the one ball rule. Reverse swing will bring back a little balance between bat and ball. Bowlers getting hammered in every game is making ODI's a bit boring. velu, UrmiSinhaRay and express bowling 2 1
Switchblade Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Kohli has also supported Tendulkar on two new ball theory eagerly waiting for @Rasgulla bhai to say something on this. The Unrealist and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1
velu Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 for a moment i thought AuxiliA, The Unrealist, Switchblade and 3 others 6
Moochad Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Certain teams couldn't play reverse swing or spin so they got rid of the 1 ball rule. I think the 2 new balls is a big reason the scores are so inflated now as well. UrmiSinhaRay, velu, Switchblade and 2 others 1 4
putrevus Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Where is the outcry about these listless wickets, what is point in playing cricket like this. UrmiSinhaRay and express bowling 1 1
Trichromatic Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Moochad said: Certain teams couldn't play reverse swing or spin so they got rid of the 1 ball rule. I think the 2 new balls is a big reason the scores are so inflated now as well. Non-SC teams got rid of 1 ball only because old ball was helping spinners or SC pacers. Spinners could choke runs in middle overs, now they have taken offies out of equation. Since leggies are ruling the roost now, soon a solution will be found to tackle these bowlers too. UrmiSinhaRay and Moochad 1 1
Nikhil_cric Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 That disgrace that kookaburra calls a cricket ball should be banned but SENA countries would rather have two of them from either end. What is needed is one good Dukes ball which has more lacquer and a prominent seam which would mean that the ball would conventionally swing/seam longer and further as well as bring reverse and spin into play later on. UrmiSinhaRay 1
Clarke Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Original problem statement in Lord Boycott's words, "They put a man on the moon but they can't make a cricket ball that holds its color for 50 overs".
Rasgulla Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Switchblade said: @Rasgulla any views on this. I think the guy is more worried that kohli will break his 100 100s more than anything. He wants to slow it down a bit but it's still gonna happen one day. I think he should just chill out and accept that Virat is 10 x better team player. Edited June 22, 2018 by Rasgulla Switchblade, beetle, UnknownGenius and 1 other 4
Rasgulla Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Switchblade said: Kohli has also supported Tendulkar on two new ball theory eagerly waiting for @Rasgulla bhai to say something on this. Kohli says He is ready for it ! He is our champion afterall, Can't let that cunning old guy win. Switchblade 1
Tibarn Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 It would help BK to become more of a wicket taker if the old rules come back. He can be dangerous with the new ball in the first 10, with the 2nd new ball after the 30th, and then bowl a couple at the death. Suddenly his wicket taking issue will be gone I think UrmiSinhaRay 1
rkt.india Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Kohli says He is ready for it ! He is our champion afterall, Can't let that cunning old guy win. Which cunning old guy are you talking about? Dhoni? Didnt expect from you. philcric and Number 2
Vilander Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Non-SC teams got rid of 1 ball only because old ball was helping spinners or SC pacers. Spinners could choke runs in middle overs, now they have taken offies out of equation. Since leggies are ruling the roost now, soon a solution will be found to tackle these bowlers too. the same crap happened with astro turf in hockey, make the game totally power oriented not deft . express bowling 1
Nikhil_cric Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 8:00 AM, Vilander said: the same crap happened with astro turf in hockey, make the game totally power oriented not deft . Exactly. Once you take the skill factor out and make it a power game you see the dominance of western teams over SC teams and cricket, specifically ODI cricket, has suddenly become England's strength. Now ICC(read OZ/ENG/NZ) want to do that with test cricket as well and you can see the measures being taken (pink ball, trying to avoid the toss, labelling pitches 'poor' etc. etc.) saik, Vilander, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 2 2
Lala Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Missing reverse-swing due to 2 new balls has seriously demoralized Pakistan Death Bowling MechEng and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1
mishra Posted June 25, 2018 Author Posted June 25, 2018 Spin has been taken out of equation Reverse swing has been taken out of equation. Dead wickets and power hitting have been brought into equation. ICC rules are simply designed to hurt odi cricket and Asian teams. UrmiSinhaRay 1
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