With no IPL contract, Hanuma Vihari uses Ranji, Irani performances to make cut

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“It’s just the consistent performances from the last 4-5 years (that helped). Because I don’t have the Indian Premier League contract which other players have to get into limelight, playing domestic cricket was the only way I could get into the Indian team. That said, I knew I needed to consistent,” Vihari said in an interview.

 

“Eight years is a long time. There’s a lot of competition (in domestic circuit). There are a lot of good players. So to perform in domestic circuit and get selected for India A and India is big. I’m happy with my progress so far,” he said.

 

He also acknowledged Rahul Dravid’s contribution to his improvement. “He told me to stick to my natural game, not alter the technique much. Honestly, that put me in a great mental space and luckily, I performed.”

 

“It’s disheartening if you perform and don’t get selected. But I knew my time will come. The best part is that I know my game very well. I try to visualise the game which keeps me a step ahead. Once I’m set, I try to dominate the opposition,” he said.

 

[Forever Indian]

Vihari has the highest average for current First class cricketers in the world of around 60, even ahead of Steve Smith who is at no.2. I know stats are not everything but someone having the best first class stats in the world certainly deserves a fair chance in Indian team. Hopefully he makes the cut at international level 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Forever Indian said:

Vihari has the highest average for current First class cricketers in the world of around 60, even ahead of Steve Smith who is at no.2. I know stats are not everything but someone having the best first class stats in the world certainly deserves a fair chance in Indian team. Hopefully he makes the cut at international level 

 

 

I like Vihari as a batsman ... and support his selection.

 

Only thing I am worried about is ... He averaged 29.8 in  2 Unofficial tests in England ...  where Pant and Shaw averaged 63 and 62.5.

[Laaloo]

This is the type of players who we've been waiting for years. Screw IPL. It doesn't help us in tests or Odis or heck even t20s.

[velu]

i wonder how @maniac ( aka @Global.Baba   aka  @sage   ) garu missed him .. he even hyped Ravi teja 

[velu]

5 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

This is the type of players who we've been waiting for years. Screw IPL. It doesn't help us in tests or Odis or heck even t20s.

 

he was with    for 3 seasons  

[Mosher]

Why should IPL performance matter for selection in the test squad or for getting into limelight? Sad state of affairs. 

[Forever Indian]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

I like Vihari as a batsman ... and support his selection.

 

Only thing I am worried about is ... He averaged 29.8 in  2 Unofficial tests in England ...  where Pant and Shaw averaged 63 and 62.5.

Let's see, averages don't mean much across two games, Pant had a couple of not outs, and Shaw's average is primarily bcos of one innings of 188 but he also got two ducks. Vihari fought it out on a tough Day 1 track when Shaw and Mayank got golden ducks and also along with Pant helped chase 320 but unluckily got runout for 68.

 

We can only judge them from how they play in tests and that too over a full series, not one off games.

[Forever Indian]

46 minutes ago, Bilal78 said:

Apparently he’s one of those batsman that does well against a poor quality of bowling, if I’m not wrong he failed in the IPL for Hyderabad.

Are you talking about Rohit Sharma by any chance?

[express bowling]

12 hours ago, Forever Indian said:

Let's see, averages don't mean much across two games, Pant had a couple of not outs, and Shaw's average is primarily bcos of one innings of 188 but he also got two ducks. Vihari fought it out on a tough Day 1 track when Shaw and Mayank got golden ducks and also along with Pant helped chase 320 but unluckily got runout for 68.

 

We can only judge them from how they play in tests and that too over a full series, not one off games.

 

Although I quoted the averages  (  which, as you rightly pointed out, does not carry much meaning with a small sample size ) ... the issue I noticed but did not have the time to post then was

 

A-tour to England

 

Pant   ...   3  fifty+ scores in 4 innings

Shaw  ...  2  fifty+ scores in 4 innings including a big century of 188

Vihari ...  1 fifty+ score in 4 innings

 

I hope this does not point to any significant weakness in Vihari's off-stump game and against the moving ball.  

 

It could well be some other issue like temporarily not being in the best of forms.   

 

Let's see.   I want Vihari to do well because he comes across as a proper test quality batsman with hunger for runs.

Edited August 25, 2018 by express bowling

[chewy]

Another player where changing Ranji states does wonders for him 

 

[WC2011INDIA]

The next pujara if you know what i mean..

[Laaloo]

18 hours ago, Bilal78 said:

Apparently he’s one of those batsman that does well against a poor quality of bowling, if I’m not wrong he failed in the IPL for Hyderabad.

Ahmed shehzad?

[Nikhil_cric]

IPL performances mean zilch when it comes to test cricket. Or even Odi cricket in my opinion but that's debatable. But let's not get carried away by his domestic average . I believe the likes of rahane and Sharma averaged around 60 as well. Ranji doesn't develop complete players and he hasn't performed well on the A tour to England. 

[gakgupta]

Vihari has the highest average for current First class cricketers in the world of around 60, even ahead of Steve Smith who is at no.2. I know stats are not everything but someone having the best first class stats in the world certainly deserves a fair chance in Indian team. Hopefully he makes the cut at international level 

Apparently, he plays in the plate league and most of his runs came against poor teams...by saying above, I don't deny or accept his inclusion in the side....but MSK as chief selector has certainly helped him to be Fast-Tracked.

Only time will tell, if he has the stomach to overcome the intl challenges...



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[express bowling]

5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

IPL performances mean zilch when it comes to test cricket. Or even Odi cricket in my opinion but that's debatable.

 

 

Only the last 10 overs of ODIs are like T20s.

 

The first 40 overs of ODIs are closer to modern day test matches than T20s. 

 

Picking top 4 batters and opening bowlers,   based on T20 performances,  is the biggest falacy IMHO.

[vishalvirsingh]

i saw him hitting umesh yadav and one more good pacer in a matchand saw some of his batting , he was attacking ...

i am 100 % confident that if he gets a chance ahead of say RAHANE as he is a middle order bat, he will score heavily and grab his chance with both hands.

 

cant say the same about Prithvi at this age...

[gakgupta]

23 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i saw him hitting umesh yadav and one more good pacer in a matchand saw some of his batting , he was attacking ...

i am 100 % confident that if he gets a chance ahead of say RAHANE as he is a middle order bat, he will score heavily and grab his chance with both hands.

 

cant say the same about Prithvi at this age...

I am from Hyderabad and i am following this guy from last 5 years...(although he has moved from Hyderabad to Andhra in the recent past)

 

His mindset is more on the Pujara mold. (not his technique but just the mindset). 

 

"You are what your mind is"

 

I believe, your statement is based on his performance in the recent past.....the attitude you have seen in the recent past is so unlike him....If this is just rubbed on attitude and temporary thing, his longevity in intl arena will be questionable....If he has truly transformed, i will be happiest person.....because, he always had the technique to succeed at the highest level but his inferiority complex was the issue...

 

You see the same inferiority issues with other hyderabadi bowler Siraj....but he is slowly coming out of the issue and feeling not out-of place