KL rahul is the most mentally weak batsman India has produced in last two decades

[Majestic]

10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

KL Rahul is still world no.3 ranked T20 player. He is a game changer. His place is not under threat. So there is no reason for him to feel pressure.  He is a true 360 degree player. In full flight can win matches single-handedly. 

But then this will mean they will drop Kishan once Rohit is back.

[Jay]

23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

KL Rahul is still world no.3 ranked T20 player. He is a game changer. His place is not under threat. So there is no reason for him to feel pressure.  He is a true 360 degree player. In full flight can win matches single-handedly. 

in middle order only.

[Vickydev]

I think he is majorly insecure about his place in the side once again now that Pant has got back the gloves and as a result is so tentative, that it looks like he is trying ever so hard to play safe and not throw it away.

 

Its unfortunate that he had to warm the bench for best part of 3 months and now maybe form is just not there to back him up. He is a special player..him alongside Kishan could be the opening partnership we've been looking for in this format

[GautiMaan]

He seems tentative and keeps getting out to swing bowlers, also with Rohit coming in at any time his place is not secure, however TM must look into the possibility of slotting him in the middle order as they did in ODI's. He can anchor better than Iyer and finish as well as SKY.

Rohit

Kishan

Kohli

Pant

Rahul

Hardik

Jadeja

Shardul

Sundar

Bumrah

Nattu

 

[express bowling]

Rahul seems to be under pressure more often than not. Even when he is doing well, he looks very grim and brooding.

 

Sometimes looks can be we deceptive but probably not the case with Rahul.

 

He needs to unclutter his mind and think positively.

[prudent_kreeda]

1 hour ago, GautiMaan said:

He seems tentative and keeps getting out to swing bowlers, also with Rohit coming in at any time his place is not secure, however TM must look into the possibility of slotting him in the middle order as they did in ODI's. He can anchor better than Iyer and finish as well as SKY.

Rohit

Kishan

Kohli

Pant

Rahul

Hardik

Jadeja

Shardul

Sundar

Bumrah

Nattu

 

 

Need a more wicket taking set of bowling. Forego Jaddu and include Varun C .

[raki05]

I think insecure execuse would not work now.. As he adapted the same approach in ipl where he is captain of the team. Many time he started rapidly but then played slow once settled in which causes his team exit from KO. When he first started in t20 he was out and out dasher even during ipl he make his mark on back of fastest half century. But somehow as soon as he became captain he went in to cell. He should play aggressively like he used to do in past or else he wont be able to survive especially when pant is full time keeping and Kishan is also there as an backup.

[afan]

KL has earned his stripes and he hasnt crossed 30 yet. How old is SKY btw?

 

I think he is getting a lot of advices, and somebody is playing with his head..Maybe some GF, or a nosy coach or a well meaning uncle 

 

He just needs to shut them off, and get on with his game

 

Dravid and Kumble must step in here...

[SRT100]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Rahul seems to be under pressure more often than not. Even when he is doing well, he looks very grim and brooding.

 

Sometimes looks can be we deceptive but probably not the case with Rahul.

 

He needs to unclutter his mind and think positively.

 

Just like Pant, KL needs his position to be guaranteed and be given the license to not put a price on his wicket and go for the runs.

 

In full flight, he is a game changer. At their peak I would rather KL ahead of Iyer in the current T20.

[Sooda]

The last time he batted before this T20I series was in Dec in Australia. T20Is really arent the best format to get back into some kind of batting touch, especially on a "two paced" pitch. Management should assure him his place is not under threat; he is too good a bat in this format.

[Bigg Brother]

What a treat to eyes he was back in 2016-18 when he nearly chased down 246 against WI (If not for Thala) and that knock against England in t20.

Edited March 15, 2021 by Bigg Brother

[BacktoCricaddict]

Yeah, this thread is about his batting, but WTF:

 

https://www.bcci.tv/videos/151919/kl-rahul-s-super-save-at-the-boundary-ropes

 

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, Sooda said:

The last time he batted before this T20I series was in Dec in Australia. T20Is really arent the best format to get back into some kind of batting touch, especially on a "two paced" pitch. Management should assure him his place is not under threat; he is too good a bat in this format.

sitting on the bench for 8 tests on the trot has made him totally out of any game time

[zen]

KL has not played competitive cricket since Aus tour so may need a few games to get going ... Many of the guys who are doing well played in tests too so are in relatively good rhythm ... T20 does not allow you more time to settle in so may need to hit out at times to sink or swim 

 

After every game if stock price of a cricketer changes, there is something wrong with the fans 

[zen]

1 hour ago, Cricspin said:

 

Consider this -

 Hardik Pandya averages 18.5 from his 45 matches with a strike rate of 144.

Rahul averages 41.7 from his 47 matches with a strike rate of 144.

If SDP bats in the top order, his avg would be higher too, along with a greater SR ... buddy, classic mistake of comparing #s of players who bat at different positions, playing different roles ...  while a Kishan can perform well in top order too, very few can excel in lower middle order with only a few balls to go and with death over specialists bowling, which is why he is preferred there (he can do the rough job).... Also everyone knows SDP is a different batsmen since the last few years, missing a few games when in good form through injury 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 15, 2021 by zen

[zen]

Just now, Cricspin said:

 

Was not a comparison to take a dig at Pandya. Just to showcase that Rahul is doing well.  

 

Rest I wont debate.

Then you need to compare with the right players in right order

 

I read your posts including when you quote me and I am usually like this poster needs a lot of explaining so I just skip 

[Pollack]

Rahul is fine. Need to stick with him in t20s and and ODIs. If backed properly he is bound to come good eventually. 

[prudent_kreeda]

Am not able to understand why there is so much confusion in assessing the ability of players . When KL scores in couple of matches he is demi-God and when fails in 2 matches he is mental midget ! .

He has been our top T20 player in different conditions for last 2 years . A mental midget or someone lacking ability cannot reach such level.

At least  assess him objectively -

Does he have all the shots to play aggressively ?

Can he play even fastest stuff and get runs , .

Can he be big  hitter vs spinners

Has he shown his ability against Top teams several times 

 

Please answer yourself for the above and assess .

People will make runs and also fail , Form also will dip at times . If that is not happening why no one is able to score at more than 55 Average in their career. ? 

 

If i were Shastri , i would even test him at #4 or #5 in next 3 matches if he cannot be accommodated at the top. You cannot  throw out a proven match winner of  short format as he has more capability than Iyer.

Rohit, Ishan ,Kohli, SKY, KL, Pant , Hardik  line up for next 2 matches 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by prudent_kreeda
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[vvvslaxman]

13 hours ago, Majestic said:

But then this will mean they will drop Kishan once Rohit is back.

 

After 1 innings he becomes the prime contender for the job? Let us see when he is up against cummins, starc.

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Cricspin said:

 

We can definitely compare Rahul with other top order players. However the intention of showing stats of someone who people consider a high impact player was to show that Rahul strikes at the same rate as Pandya while scoring at much higher average. Yes, thanks to him playing top of the order.  Obviously there is **** ton of discussion that can happen based on batting position. 

 

Thanks for avoiding the explanation. Saves time for both of us.  I did not want to discuss how we can just a move a player from no.6/7 to Top3 and just assume he will keep scoring at even higher rate while improving his average 2X-3X of current average. 

 

 

It is proven that if good batsmen get to play more balls, their avg and SR improves ... you can also pick the bowlers to target unlike in the death overs where you have less options, while also leveraging on field restrictions  ... Below since 2018 

 

View overall figures

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or India  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Ordered by batting strike rate (descending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
HH Pandya	2018-2021	16	11	4	215	42*	30.71	152	141.44	0	0	0	14	12
RG Sharma	2018-2020	29	28	3	771	111*	30.84	546	141.20	2	5	2	67	41
KL Rahul	2018-2021	29	27	3	916	101*	38.16	651	140.70	1	7	2	81	36
V Kohli	2018-2021	30	28	8	1036	94*	51.80	740	140.00	0	8	1	61	44
S Dhawan	2018-2021	30	28	0	865	92	30.89	647	133.69	0	6	0	88	25
MS Dhoni	2018-2019	11	9	4	242	52*	48.40	186	130.10	0	1	0	21	8
RR Pant	2018-2021	24	22	4	374	65*	20.77	292	128.08	0	2	3	25	20
SS Iyer	2019-2021	17	16	6	313	67	31.30	245	127.75	0	2	1	23	12
MK Pandey	2018-2020	18	16	10	372	79*	62.00	292	127.39	0	2	0	25	10

 

 

Above SDP has an avg of 31 with a SR of 141, that too after only playing 13-14 balls per inning. Guys who mostly bat in the top order avg 23-24 balls