Gollum Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Our North America based bandhus @Laaloo @maniac @sandeep @coffee_rules, first thing they see after waking up....Bumrah ruled out of Gabba test. Worst start to the day I guess. What rotten luck this series wanted_desi, coffee_rules and maniac 3 Link to comment
G_B_ Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gollum said: Ash hasn't been the same physically since 2016-17 sports hernia episode. But one thing I can say with certainty, no international bowler in the world has bowled as much as Ashwin in the last 10 years or so. Too much cricket he plays unlike Lyon. Tests, ODIs, T20Is, IPL, TNPL, county, Ranji/Duleep/Deodhar/V-Hazare/Irani (for a well established international he plays lots in domestic)...... He carries a lot of blame for his poor fitness in general but the schedule is packed even now when he doesn't feature in white ball internationals. The chronic hernia and groin problems have made matters worse and he can't sustain his fitness/quality by the end of a 4/5 test series any more. well he can surely pull out of TNPL? Link to comment
G_B_ Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The thing about the Aussie bowlers is that in 3 tests their 5th bowler has bowled 41 overs. Lets take out the 36ao. 5 innings 41 overs. Thats 8 overs per innings. Which is very low. Our overs bowled are distributed among 5 bowlers and still we are facing injuries.(not counting Jaddu) Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Rahane needs to rotate fast bowlers lot better, it is of main reasons for Bumrah getting over worked. Saini did not bowl for almost two sessions. Siraj was brought in very late in second test two. He had five full time bowlers and yet he failed to rotate them properly. He overwoked Siraj and Bumrah in Sydney test. Link to comment
Serpico Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, G_B_ said: The thing about the Aussie bowlers is that in 3 tests their 5th bowler has bowled 41 overs. Lets take out the 36ao. 5 innings 41 overs. Thats 8 overs per innings. Which is very low. Our overs bowled are distributed among 5 bowlers and still we are facing injuries.(not counting Jaddu) Starc and Hazlewood bowled 98 overs each while Cummins bowled 111. Bumrah bowled 117 overs. Lyon bowled 128 overs while Ashwin bowled 134. Even though we played with 5 bowlers, often we were one bowler down. Shami couldn't bowl in second innings at Adelaide. Umesh couldn't bowl in second innings at Melbourne. Jadeja couldn't bowl in second innings at Sydney Vk1 and Gollum 2 Link to comment
Serpico Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: Rahane needs to rotate fast bowlers lot better, it is of main reasons for Bumrah getting over worked. Saini did not bowl for almost two sessions. Siraj was brought in very late in second test two. He had five full time bowlers and yet he failed to rotate them properly. He overwoked Siraj and Bumrah in Sydney test. He also didn't bowl Jadeja on day 1. I think he really wanted to get smith/labu before going for Saini and jaddu Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, G_B_ said: well he can surely pull out of TNPL? Maybe TNCA/Srini pressure . Anyway I am happy with TNPL success, a big name like Ashwin can go a long way in raising its popularity, the league is throwing up some fine T20 players for IPL/India, guys like Nattu, Varun C, Sundar will be vital for our T20 WC chances. Varun C was brought into spotlight by Ash when he was leading KXI Punjab and trust me he is a gem, if used judiciously he can end our ICC title drought. Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Serpico said: He also didn't bowl Jadeja on day 1. I think he really wanted to get smith/labu before going for Saini and jaddu Dhoni did the same nonsense with Bhuvi in 2014 trip when he overworked him in first two tests. He has never been same bowler again. Fast bowlers are delicate flowers who need to be handled with lot of care. Rahane is useless in rotating the bowlers. Link to comment
Soldier Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: This is to be fair an unreasonable amount of injuries. But it does raise issues if general fitness. Aus are going through same series with the same set of 4 bowlers. Dont know what will happen to india in places like england with 5 tests. I get a feeling india only have capacity for 3 test series. India were exeptionall fit for 2018. In 2021 covid restrictions made them less conditioned for a gruelling series. It's always harder for away teams.when Aussies and the poms play India away, they always play tests first or solely tests in that season. At times they may play odi before a test but never both odi and T20 like India do. India play way more intense games plus IPL. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Damn it! Just yesterday I was thinking we should be thankful that at-least Bumrah, the leader of the pack is available. Now even he is gone. WTF kind of series is this with all these injuries? Maybe 2-3 matches should be the limit in these crazy covid times because players are extra fatigued due to long periods of isolation + lack of practice and you can't fly in replacements either. To add to the 4 tests, we had 3 each of ODIs and T20s too. That's greedy and insensitive! Edited January 12, 2021 by nevada Suhaan and maniac 1 1 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, express bowling said: Shouldn't play an unfit fast bowler. We don't want to aggravate Bumrah's injury and reduce his bowling ability for a long time. I hope they are just playing mind-games with this statement. We simply cannot afford to risk Bumrah long-term with such an injury. I have confidence that Rahane will make the most sensible decision. I can't remember how many LOIs he played on this tour, but it seems like he played all T20s, at least one ODI and also the practice match? Was that really necessary? Link to comment
New guy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 No idea why we need to keep playing Bumrah, Shami etc in LOIs with the kind of work load we have and the tests to come, plus IPL which they cannot miss. It will end their careers nevada 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Rain is expected, with some luck, we can save the test Everybody get your costumes and do this I will start belting Megh Malhar And Amrutavarshini adi B, asterix, WC2011INDIA and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
nevada Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Rain is expected, with some luck, we can save the test Everybody get your costumes and do this I will start belting Megh Malhar And Amrutavarshini Good idea! But make sure you do it in Brisbane, not where you currently live. Edited January 12, 2021 by nevada coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
Kothili Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Mindblowing how these *ers play IPL without a hitch and then screw up on national duty. Link to comment
Kothili Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Very poor support stuff who do nothing or have Zero skills assessing player fitness. express bowling, nitinbwj and sandsaims 2 1 Link to comment
goose Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, Kothili said: Very poor support stuff who do nothing or have Zero skills assessing player fitness. the staff are probably injured Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, G_B_ said: This is to be fair an unreasonable amount of injuries. But it does raise issues if general fitness. Aus are going through same series with the same set of 4 bowlers. Dont know what will happen to india in places like england with 5 tests. I get a feeling india only have capacity for 3 test series. Ashwin was saying that it is because of the Lockdown. India is a highly populated country and cricketers did not get to practice for 5 months. While Australian cricketers did practice during part of this period. Earlier India did not have problems with 4 test matches atleast. Mosher 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 hours ago, gattaca said: Tyagi looks quite fast. I had seen this Live while i watched on TV. Also saw it thrice today. I am not sure what is wrong with me ( as i have watched this simple video of tyagi hitting Pucvoski 4 times) Link to comment
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