Texan Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Batting deep. When will India ever get it? Unless specialist bowler is a Bumrah.... Link to comment
Texan Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 We got put of jail today but if there is a lesson we need to learn here, it is that pure bowlers who are not exceptional and don't bring other skills are overrated for ODIs Stan AF, velu, RAZPOR and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
kohli Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 specialists + 2 who can bat 7 jaddu 8 thakur 9 specialists spinner 10 bhuvi 11 bumrah Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 We only had 3 specialist bowlers today. Link to comment
SrinjayDutta Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Texan said: Batting deep. When will India ever get it? Unless specialist bowler is a Bumrah.... Special bowlers, not specialists. bowlers who can take 10 wickets in all conditions. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 You need at least 2 skills in cricket today, a good bowler with avg or above avg fielding is fine! The issue is most of our pacers are just above avg & sh!t fielders - this is why we need the likes of Thakur or even Krunal. Link to comment
jalebi_bhai Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 specialist bats (including wk) 2 batting all-rounders 1 bowling all-rounder 3 specialist bowlers We've been playing this combo whole series. Today the sixth bowler was utilized and hence we defended a below par score. I support this team combo. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Krunal Pandya is neither a batsman, nor a bowler. Majestic, Cricspin, GautiMaan and 5 others 1 2 5 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 To bat deep, you need to to have atleast three bowlers who can handle the bat . Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texan said: Batting deep. When will India ever get it? Unless specialist bowler is a Bumrah.... We can only play the aggressive brand of cricket if we have an ODI lineup like:- Rohit Dhawan( for now and replace by Shaw soon) Kohli Pant KL Pandya Jadeja Shardul Ashwin Shami/Bhuvi Bumrah Without Shardul at 8 and Ashwin at 9, we can't do well consistently enough with the aggressive brand of cricket because there will be occasions where we lose 6 wickets by around 40 overs. Edited March 28, 2021 by Majestic kohli and deepdynamo 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 If 8 batsmen cannot do the job then you are not picking good batsmen. We need to find more wicket taking bowlers for white ball cricket ... because taking wickets is what can win matches these days. SRT100 1 Link to comment
prasen82 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I think you should have 3 specialist batsman,3 specialist bowlers , 1 hard hitting wk batsman and 5 players who are good/above average in 2 of 3 skills. If they are average in one, they have to be exceptional in other. I think you can no longer play KL, rohit, dhawan and kohli together. Rohit , Kohli and Sky/iyer have to be the 3 specialist batsman. The remaining 4 bat/bowl ar should be thakur, jadeja, sundar, krunal, ashwin, Three specialist bowlers will have to be shami, bhuvi and bumrah. All the rest will need to do back up duty Team order Sundar Rohit Kohli SkY/iyer Pant Hardik Jadeja Thakur Ashwin Bumrah Bhuvi This way you have 3 wicket taking bowlers in bhuvi, ashwin and bumrah. Jadeja could throttle runs and you have 4 bowlers who can bowl the 5th over. If sundar is a luxury, replace with ishan. express bowling 1 Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Majestic said: We can only play the aggressive brand of cricket if we have an ODI lineup like:- Rohit Dhawan( for now and replace by Shaw soon) Kohli Pant KL Pandya Jadeja Shardul Ashwin Shami/Bhuvi Bumrah Without Shardul at 8 and Ashwin at 9, we can't do well consistently enough with the aggressive brand of cricket because there will be occasions where we lose 6 wickets by around 40 overs. If World cup is tomorrow, I will play this team. Bating till 9. 6 bowlers including two experienced spinners. Majestic 1 Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 we can pick bowlers who can bat a bit like thakur. also if we are going to play aggressive we need bit of insurance with players like washington sundar. add jadeja and hardik and you got lot of bowling options. Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I believe that in modern ODI and T20, there shall not be more than 3 genuine bowlers. Also, 6 bowling options are must in white ball cricket. So there should be 2 batting allrounders and 1 bowling allrounder. So for India, Hardik Jadeja Thakur/ Washi + 3 specialist bowler should be way forward Link to comment
Vickydev Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Specialists, atleast 3 in ODIs are a must as long as they are quality. Wickettakers win you matches in the middleovers, that cant be substituted for any amount of batting ability. T20, one can get away with having just 2 specialists. Bat deep till no 9 and have them bowl enough along with other options in the top 7. Link to comment
nevada Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We need to look for bowlers like Chahar and Thakur who can bat a bit. We CANNOT afford bowlers who bat like they have a broomstick in hand! Barring Bumrah, none are great in bowling either. They just serve up juicy half trackers or length balls which disappear into the stands and then show Allan Donald/ McGrath level of (non)batsmanship, which is totally unforgivable! Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, deepdynamo said: I believe that in modern ODI and T20, there shall not be more than 3 genuine bowlers. Also, 6 bowling options are must in white ball cricket. So there should be 2 batting allrounders and 1 bowling allrounder. So for India, Hardik Jadeja Thakur/ Washi + 3 specialist bowler should be way forward I agree but i would still want these allrounders to have that X factor be it with the bat or ball, someone like Kedhar Jadhav or good old Joginder Sharma should not make it into the XI just to make up the numbers Link to comment
Vk1 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 also get rid of this notion that we need to play a specialist spinner by default.. if we dont have a quality spinner then pick a pacer instead. express bowling and velu 2 Link to comment
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